Continental Connection Commutair
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ITRADE
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B-1900s. Every seat (except row 9) is an aisle AND a window!!!
jimntx
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I had never heard of this airline; so, I went to their website. I think it interesting that they are based in Albany, NY and CLE and fly all over the upper East Coast and Midwest. Yet, the only NYC area airports they serve are White Plains and Islip.
Does CoEX have a monopoly on EWR?
Does CoEX have a monopoly on EWR?
jimntx
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Not really to the point I was asking about. I would imagine that if Continental Connection flew into EWR, they would be allowed to use any available Continental gate. Continental Express has extensive flying out of EWR. Does that prevent Connection from flying there is the question I was asking.
jimntx
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Well, first off Connection is a contract carrier whereas Express is partially owned by Continental. I have no idea whether they compete in feeder cities, but isn't the point of a affinity regional to funnel traffic from smaller cities into the hubs? Connection flies into CLE and so does CoEx. CoEx and Skywest (flying as CoEx or Connection, I'm not sure) both fly into IAH. What's different about EWR?
Coex can't make money flying between IAH and say college Station so Skywest has filled in with the turboprops (since Coex doesn't have them) the contract is with CO. This doesn't stop Skywest from coming into IAH and flying from IAH to DFW, but why would they want to duke it out with AA and CO on the route. I imagin the same hold true in EWR, Connection makes money on a contract with flying out of CLE across teh north east. So, why would they want to bite the hand that feeds them?
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I have been told in the past (by their employees) that CommutAir's contract locks them out of EWR.
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jimntx said:
Its likely just a situation of keeping the smaller aircraft out of EWR. ALB acts as a kind of relief mini-hub for the smaller cities, rather than crowding up slots and gates at EWR that could be used for CO/COEX.
US has done similar at PHL, getting rid of or rerouting the smaller props in favor of more 30, 50 and 70 seaters. When theres plenty of room, its nice to have the extra feed, but if things are crowded, its a waste of resources to have a B1900 flight.
Commutair was a US Airways Express carrier before, in fact half of thier planes still wear the basic US Airways livery with Continental Connection titles.
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Light Year has it summed up pretty well...
IMHO, I would rather fly PVD-ALB-BUF, than PVD-EWR-BUF so as to avoid the EWR mess as long as the fare was comparible. The ALB "Micro-hub" is a neat little idea they have going...
IMHO, I would rather fly PVD-ALB-BUF, than PVD-EWR-BUF so as to avoid the EWR mess as long as the fare was comparible. The ALB "Micro-hub" is a neat little idea they have going...
markkus757 said:
Mohawk used to do it successfully out of SYR.
My curiosity goes to whether and how they might expand capacity as US more or less abandons these markets. It's a crucial step that has done in a bunch of nifty little commuters in the past.
jimntx
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Light Years and Markkus757, thanks for the reasonable, non-condescending response. Your explanation makes sense.
A lot of the issue has to do with the aircraft. EWR is pretty congested from an air traffic aspect. By having a prop fly a route, you decrease total flights due to separation requirements (a prop has to wait longer to take off after a jet due to jetwash). As a result, they don't want them in there...
