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“Dave is an incredible talent with the skills to lead Frontier during its separation process from Republic and continue its transformation into a profitable ultra-low-cost-carrier,” said Bryan Bedford, Chairman, President and CEO of Republic Airways Holdings, Inc. “We believe that Dave’s combination of travel industry and restructuring experience makes him uniquely well suited for the task at hand. Placing Frontier in Dave’s capable care affords me the opportunity to fully focus my time and energy on the regional airline segment of our business.”
 
Hopefully Dave has learned something since leaving US. Otherwise F9 will end up with more RJ's than mainline planes and be right back in bankruptcy.

Jim
 
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Hopefully Dave has learned something since leaving US. Otherwise F9 will end up with more RJ's than mainline planes and be right back in bankruptcy.

Jim

Something we agree on. I remember walking out of his CLT roadshow thinking "I just don't see it".
 
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I must be psychic :lol: I was looking up something else earlier today and came across Dave's letter to employees in November 2003, along with a response from the AFA MEC president. It's still open in another tab so here's copy and paste from FT:

Dear US Airways Colleague:

Some people think that our successful emergence from bankruptcy was the end of our restructuring. The truth is that our emergence from Chapter 11 was only the beginning. It was the life support that bought us time so that we could go on to fight another day. Well, that day has arrived.


It is time to stand and fight in Philadelphia.


We all know that Southwest has announced plans to launch service next spring from our key hub and that if we give ground there, we will give away control of our future and the very heart of our airline. It’s time to get off the defensive and move to being recognized as the top airline in our markets. It is time to take a stand for our Company.


We can compete with Southwest and other carriers on service: we have a better product, excellent airport facilities, regional and international destinations, marketing alliances, and most importantly, the best people in the business. The industry we are in demands giving customers what they want: not only the professional and courteous service we provide, but safe and reliable air service at the lowest price possible. That’s what makes Southwest, JetBlue and others such strong and successful competitors.


The plain and brutal fact is that we cannot compete with low-cost carriers (LCCs) on one critical factor that can make or break the airline – cost. The fact that analysts and industry experts have even grouped these airlines in their own category – LCCs – is testament to their influence on the industry. No one is to blame for this cost disadvantage, but the simple truth is that the LCCs deliver a seat mile at a cost about 40 percent less than ours. A more efficient operation, better use of technology, lower distribution costs, and greater productivity make up the largest share of their cost advantage.

When I talk about costs and productivity, I am trying to point out a core issue – low-cost competition has changed the airlines as it has other entire industries. The loss of huge textile companies in North Carolina and steel companies in Pittsburgh show how these industries have been beaten down by more efficient importers when they did not adapt to change. Low-cost competition can also change consumer behavior, like shopping at Wal-Mart instead of Woolworth’s. In the airline industry, low-cost competitors are not a passing fad, they are a reality. Southwest, AirTran and JetBlue are fueling growth with new airplanes, airport expansion and access to capital. They are the Wal-Mart, Home Depot and Target of the airline business, and their product is no longer something sold to the once-a-year vacation traveler willing to drive to a secondary airport. Their customers are now the business travelers we have traditionally relied upon.

Collectively, we will choose our future. We cannot become irrelevant to our customers, and without adapting to the changing marketplace, I am afraid we will be. I did not come here to oversee a going-out-of-business sale. I came here to rebuild and grow an important business. But first, we had to prune the worst of the money-losing operation so that we could be in a position to grow. Although our efforts to this point have yielded significant cost improvements, we continue to lose money, and we still do business the same way we have always done it – with inefficient operations, inadequate technology and distribution channels, complex pricing, outdated work rules and personnel policies, and internal dissension.

We must come to grips with the fact that the industry is changing and that to survive, we must transform every part of the company – more efficient operations, simpler pricing strategies, a better product for our customers, more productive work rules, a more flexible business model – literally everything must be on the table. And that is exactly the plan we're working on right now. Our focus is on how to be flexible, adaptable and creative, and to do this, we must think in terms of the customer and what they will demand of us going forward.

There is no reason why US Airways and our employees can’t be the ones opening up new routes and taking new airplanes. We just need to be able to compete in all aspects of the business so that we will have partners willing to invest in our company, lend us money, and sell us airplanes, knowing that we have all the elements for long-term success.

Looking back 18 months ago, the skeptics did not think we’d even still be here. We proved them wrong, but now those same skeptics say we cannot survive in the low-cost market. I believe we all have the spirit and ability to prove them wrong again. And if we can adapt, we can grow, so that rather than Southwest and JetBlue announcing aircraft orders, it will be us.

As we work through our plan, we will make sure you are informed every step of the way. Please make an effort to access the communications that we will be sharing with employees throughout this process.

And most importantly, thanks for your efforts at taking care of our customers. I fully appreciate that people want to see us succeed because of our employees who make the difference.

David N. Siegel
President and CEO
US Airways

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Here is the response from Perry L. Hayes, president of US Airways Association of Flight Attendants:

Dear Dave:

First and foremost, I must advise you that as a labor leader at this airline, I believe your letter will fall on deaf ears. The employees of this Company have collectively already given back too much. And some of your analysis of what needs to be done honestly makes no sense at all.


You mention that we have a better product than Southwest. Who cares? Do the customers who flock to Southwest do so because of the product Southwest offers? No, Dave. They do so because of price. Southwest offers a simple product, i.e., transportation from point A to point B. Novel idea, but no one on this management team seems to want to try that concept. If you want to compete with Southwest, then become more like them. Quit trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.


You say we cannot compete with the low-cost carriers on one critical factor and that factor is cost. Nice play on words, however, we don't operate like the low-cost carriers. We have a hub and spoke system that is more inefficient and costly to operate. It appears management would like to continue to operate this airline in an inefficient manner and get the employees to absorb that "cost". Not likely to occur Dave. And when you mention productivity, let's be honest. Who schedules the airline? Who creates the idle time sitting in airports for both crews and aircraft? Management does Dave - not labor. It appears you would like our airline to be the Macy's of the industry, but you want the employees to be the Wal-Mart greeters in terms of what they make. Oh, don't get me wrong, you expect the employees to provide all the services of Macy's to the customers but at clearance prices for their labor.

You say we will choose our future. Does that mean that the employees of the airline can stand up to management and the Board and demand that the current team of inefficient and apparently inept management be replaced? That would be the first step in choosing our future. We need a team that understands that you can't compete with something you aren't and aren't willing to become. Your plan again seems to be focused on driving down cost and increasing productivity, but there does not appear to be any real change proposed in how this airline operates. The employees have been led to slaughter on two previous occasions and it is unlikely they are willing to head down that path again. The employees need a management team with vision and the insight to change this airline. Since you have been here I have not seen such vision. You were praised for getting us out of bankruptcy so quickly. Big deal. Not that impressive when you see that the airline is still doing things pretty much the way it always has and still trying to blame labor cost and productivity for all our problems.

You actually have the audacity to tell the employees of this airline that "everything must be on the table." Sorry Dave. We already gave. And the management team in place not only accepts what was negotiated, but continues to violate our labor agreement and interpret what was negotiated in a manner that was never discussed. We have seen this happen with the sick policy that was negotiated last year as well as with the implementation of the new reserve system. AFA agrees to one thing and the Company takes that and implements a few creative ideas of its own. Putting things on the table with this management team means opening yourself up to lies and deceit.

A management team that looks to one thing, over and over, as the primary means of survival, cannot control the future of this airline. You apparently believe that labor must again be willing to give more. I believe we need a new management team with vision and some new ideas because your old ideas aren't going anywhere.

Sincerely,

Perry L. Hayes
MEC President
 
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And don't forget one OUTSTANDING fact.. USair paid this man $5 Mil when he left. And then two weeks later, paid that worthless CFO (I forgot his sorry a$$ name) another $3 Million. That's $8 Million all together for those two morons who shattered the old company.. And now he's BACK in the airline game.. I feel sorry for those Republic boys.
 
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Hopefully Dave has learned something since leaving US. Otherwise F9 will end up with more RJ's than mainline planes and be right back in bankruptcy.

Jim
Some say our second bankruptcy was necessary to correct his "restructuring experience." Just sayin'. Good luck with this one F9.
 
On the bright side - for Dave, not the F9 employees - maybe he'll get the shot at a second bankruptcy that US denied him....

Jim
 
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Republic Airways Holdings Inc. (RJET) said its Frontier Airlines business may begin operating as a separate company in six to 12 months, without specifying whether that would happen through a sale or a spinoff.

Frontier will be an “ultra-low cost” carrier and its headquarters will return to Denver, Republic said in a U.S. regulatory filing today. Indianapolis-based Republic named veteran industry executive David Siegel as Frontier’s chief executive officer yesterday.

Republic veered away from its traditional role of providing regional flights for larger carriers when it acquired Frontier out of bankruptcy in 2009 and began competing on main jet routes. Republic said in November it would sell or spin off Frontier to shareholders in an effort to restore profits.
 
Part of the last concessions the pilots gave (and maybe other groups - don't know) was a provision that required Republic to become at most a minority holder of F9. And of course the last sentence tells why Republic agreed - "Republic said in November it would sell or spin off Frontier to shareholders in an effort to restore profits." Whats his name that runs Republic thought the was smarter than those before him - he thought he could become a "big" airline and rake in the cash. F9 has been a drag on Republic and supported by the fee for departure operation since they acquired it.

Jim
 
Republic Airways Holdings Inc. (RJET) said its Frontier Airlines business may begin operating as a separate company in six to 12 months, without specifying whether that would happen through a sale or a spinoff.

Frontier will be an “ultra-low cost” carrier and its headquarters will return to Denver, Republic said in a U.S. regulatory filing today. Indianapolis-based Republic named veteran industry executive David Siegel as Frontier’s chief executive officer yesterday.

Republic veered away from its traditional role of providing regional flights for larger carriers when it acquired Frontier out of bankruptcy in 2009 and began competing on main jet routes. Republic said in November it would sell or spin off Frontier to shareholders in an effort to restore profits.
Great to see Mr. Siegel at the helm. He certainly brings the experience and dedication to the aviation industry. Wish him and the employees of Frontier the best of luck going forward. There are also rumors swirling that there could be a tie up between Frontier and Spirit (B. Ben Baldanza). But we all know how rumors go.
 
Actually, a merger between Spirit and Frontier makes sense to a degree. BBB was at US during Siegel's tenure, and their intent to be an ultra LCC has some synergies.

That said, it makes so much sense it's completely unlikely. ;)
 
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I must be psychic :lol: I was looking up something else earlier today and came across Dave's letter to employees in November 2003, along with a response from the AFA MEC president. It's still open in another tab so here's copy and paste from FT:

Dear US Airways Colleague:

Some people think that our successful emergence from bankruptcy was the end of our restructuring. The truth is that our emergence from Chapter 11 was only the beginning. It was the life support that bought us time so that we could go on to fight another day. Well, that day has arrived.


It is time to stand and fight in Philadelphia.


We all know that Southwest has announced plans to launch service next spring from our key hub and that if we give ground there, we will give away control of our future and the very heart of our airline. It’s time to get off the defensive and move to being recognized as the top airline in our markets. It is time to take a stand for our Company.


We can compete with Southwest and other carriers on service: we have a better product, excellent airport facilities, regional and international destinations, marketing alliances, and most importantly, the best people in the business. The industry we are in demands giving customers what they want: not only the professional and courteous service we provide, but safe and reliable air service at the lowest price possible. That’s what makes Southwest, JetBlue and others such strong and successful competitors.


The plain and brutal fact is that we cannot compete with low-cost carriers (LCCs) on one critical factor that can make or break the airline – cost. The fact that analysts and industry experts have even grouped these airlines in their own category – LCCs – is testament to their influence on the industry. No one is to blame for this cost disadvantage, but the simple truth is that the LCCs deliver a seat mile at a cost about 40 percent less than ours. A more efficient operation, better use of technology, lower distribution costs, and greater productivity make up the largest share of their cost advantage.

When I talk about costs and productivity, I am trying to point out a core issue – low-cost competition has changed the airlines as it has other entire industries. The loss of huge textile companies in North Carolina and steel companies in Pittsburgh show how these industries have been beaten down by more efficient importers when they did not adapt to change. Low-cost competition can also change consumer behavior, like shopping at Wal-Mart instead of Woolworth’s. In the airline industry, low-cost competitors are not a passing fad, they are a reality. Southwest, AirTran and JetBlue are fueling growth with new airplanes, airport expansion and access to capital. They are the Wal-Mart, Home Depot and Target of the airline business, and their product is no longer something sold to the once-a-year vacation traveler willing to drive to a secondary airport. Their customers are now the business travelers we have traditionally relied upon.

Collectively, we will choose our future. We cannot become irrelevant to our customers, and without adapting to the changing marketplace, I am afraid we will be. I did not come here to oversee a going-out-of-business sale. I came here to rebuild and grow an important business. But first, we had to prune the worst of the money-losing operation so that we could be in a position to grow. Although our efforts to this point have yielded significant cost improvements, we continue to lose money, and we still do business the same way we have always done it – with inefficient operations, inadequate technology and distribution channels, complex pricing, outdated work rules and personnel policies, and internal dissension.

We must come to grips with the fact that the industry is changing and that to survive, we must transform every part of the company – more efficient operations, simpler pricing strategies, a better product for our customers, more productive work rules, a more flexible business model – literally everything must be on the table. And that is exactly the plan we're working on right now. Our focus is on how to be flexible, adaptable and creative, and to do this, we must think in terms of the customer and what they will demand of us going forward.

There is no reason why US Airways and our employees can’t be the ones opening up new routes and taking new airplanes. We just need to be able to compete in all aspects of the business so that we will have partners willing to invest in our company, lend us money, and sell us airplanes, knowing that we have all the elements for long-term success.

Looking back 18 months ago, the skeptics did not think we’d even still be here. We proved them wrong, but now those same skeptics say we cannot survive in the low-cost market. I believe we all have the spirit and ability to prove them wrong again. And if we can adapt, we can grow, so that rather than Southwest and JetBlue announcing aircraft orders, it will be us.

As we work through our plan, we will make sure you are informed every step of the way. Please make an effort to access the communications that we will be sharing with employees throughout this process.

And most importantly, thanks for your efforts at taking care of our customers. I fully appreciate that people want to see us succeed because of our employees who make the difference.

David N. Siegel
President and CEO
US Airways

--

Here is the response from Perry L. Hayes, president of US Airways Association of Flight Attendants:

Dear Dave:

First and foremost, I must advise you that as a labor leader at this airline, I believe your letter will fall on deaf ears. The employees of this Company have collectively already given back too much. And some of your analysis of what needs to be done honestly makes no sense at all.


You mention that we have a better product than Southwest. Who cares? Do the customers who flock to Southwest do so because of the product Southwest offers? No, Dave. They do so because of price. Southwest offers a simple product, i.e., transportation from point A to point B. Novel idea, but no one on this management team seems to want to try that concept. If you want to compete with Southwest, then become more like them. Quit trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.


You say we cannot compete with the low-cost carriers on one critical factor and that factor is cost. Nice play on words, however, we don't operate like the low-cost carriers. We have a hub and spoke system that is more inefficient and costly to operate. It appears management would like to continue to operate this airline in an inefficient manner and get the employees to absorb that "cost". Not likely to occur Dave. And when you mention productivity, let's be honest. Who schedules the airline? Who creates the idle time sitting in airports for both crews and aircraft? Management does Dave - not labor. It appears you would like our airline to be the Macy's of the industry, but you want the employees to be the Wal-Mart greeters in terms of what they make. Oh, don't get me wrong, you expect the employees to provide all the services of Macy's to the customers but at clearance prices for their labor.

You say we will choose our future. Does that mean that the employees of the airline can stand up to management and the Board and demand that the current team of inefficient and apparently inept management be replaced? That would be the first step in choosing our future. We need a team that understands that you can't compete with something you aren't and aren't willing to become. Your plan again seems to be focused on driving down cost and increasing productivity, but there does not appear to be any real change proposed in how this airline operates. The employees have been led to slaughter on two previous occasions and it is unlikely they are willing to head down that path again. The employees need a management team with vision and the insight to change this airline. Since you have been here I have not seen such vision. You were praised for getting us out of bankruptcy so quickly. Big deal. Not that impressive when you see that the airline is still doing things pretty much the way it always has and still trying to blame labor cost and productivity for all our problems.

You actually have the audacity to tell the employees of this airline that "everything must be on the table." Sorry Dave. We already gave. And the management team in place not only accepts what was negotiated, but continues to violate our labor agreement and interpret what was negotiated in a manner that was never discussed. We have seen this happen with the sick policy that was negotiated last year as well as with the implementation of the new reserve system. AFA agrees to one thing and the Company takes that and implements a few creative ideas of its own. Putting things on the table with this management team means opening yourself up to lies and deceit.

A management team that looks to one thing, over and over, as the primary means of survival, cannot control the future of this airline. You apparently believe that labor must again be willing to give more. I believe we need a new management team with vision and some new ideas because your old ideas aren't going anywhere.

Sincerely,

Perry L. Hayes
MEC President
Sounds like a TYPICAL 1%
 

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