Democrats.....the gift that keeps on giving

townpete

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Hillary Admits Obamacare Means People Lose Full-Time Jobs


"Thats why theyre going to part-time, that and also the Affordable Care Act," said Clinton. "You know, we've got to change that because we have built in some unfortunate incentives that discourage full-time employment."

https://youtu.be/QLJWIyJLs68


While Republicans (and the CBO) have been warning for years that Obamacare would lead to a major reduction in working hours and jobs, the leftist media has been doing everything in its power to keep the "Obamacare is working" narrative alive despite all the evidence. (The Washington Post ran a story this summer attempting to refute the idea that the ACA provides incentives to cut hours, but admitted to using data "from before the mandate took place" to "prove" it's claim.)

But, as usual, the left's narrative is collapsing in the face of reality, and now even the Democratic presidential frontrunner is having to admit it to maintain some degree of credibility on the issue. Perhaps Clinton is open to talking with conservatives about how to handle some of those problems she's "really worried about." Don't hold your breath.
 
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"because we have built in some unfortunate incentives that discourage full-time employment."   No kidding? Whew!...Who could have EVER seen that coming? Btw folks; exactly WHO's responsible for "we have built in some unfortunate incentives that discourage full-time employment."...? What "we" are referenced there? Surely not the "intelligent" likes of Ms. Pelosi et al: "We have to pass it for you to find out what's in it"...? ;)
 
No worries though, since "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor"...Right?...NO?...Even THAT much was just a complete and out-right LIE?...Who who would've ever even imagined?
 
Ringo Starr put it perfectly: "Everything that government touches turns to 'crap."
 
http://www.wsj.com/articles/unitedhealths-obamacare-reckoning-1448232440
 

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townpete said:
While Republicans (and the CBO) have been warning for years that Obamacare would lead to a major reduction in working hours and jobs, the leftist media has been doing everything in its power to keep the "Obamacare is working" narrative alive despite all the evidence. (The Washington Post ran a story this summer attempting to refute the idea that the ACA provides incentives to cut hours, but admitted to using data "from before the mandate took place" to "prove" it's claim.)

But, as usual, the left's narrative is collapsing in the face of reality, and now even the Democratic presidential frontrunner is having to admit it to maintain some degree of credibility on the issue. Perhaps Clinton is open to talking with conservatives about how to handle some of those problems she's "really worried about." Don't hold your breath.
Nice cut and paste, even bots should cite their source.
 
http://www.dailywire.com/news/1991/hillary-admits-obamacare-means-people-lose-full-james-barrett
 

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"With any luck we can kick ACA to the curb and replace it with single payer." Seriously?
 
Sigh!..Yet another run-by-guv-mint cure for all ills? No more even possibly "brilliant" solution could ever be imagined. Well..let's see: "they" (very predictably) FK'd it all up, so let's give "them" further carte blanche to do the same again? What could possibly go wrong THIS time? ;)
 
"Insanity is the definition of repeating the same experiment and expecting different results".....
 
How much more "we have to pass it for you to find out what's in it" do you honestly feel the need to see?
 

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EastUS1 said:
"With any luck we can kick ACA to the curb and replace it with single payer." Seriously?
 
Sigh!..Yet another run-by-guv-mint cure for all ills? No more even possibly "brilliant" solution could ever be imagined. Well..let's see: "they" (very predictably) FK'd it all up, so let's give "them" further carte blanche to do the same again? What could possibly go wrong THIS time? ;)
 
"Insanity is the definition of repeating the same experiment and expecting different results".....
 
How much more "we have to pass it for you to find out what's in it" do you honestly feel the need to see?
 

It has worked far better than our corrupt system in the countries that have it. I think given US ingenuity and creativity we should be able to learn from the mistakes of others and create a better system.
 

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Ms Tree, on 19 Dec 2015 - 5:44 PM, said:
With any luck we can kick ACA to the curb
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We should be so lucky...
 
Criminy! Do ANY of you fine liberals EVER listen to even yourselves? Wasn't the "ACA" the ultimate cure-all?...Yet now you cheer for the chance to "kick" it "to the curb" in favor of yet MORE guv-mint bungling, power-grabbing and special interest sucking up to come? When will you fools ever learn? Are you all simply insane or what?
 
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EastUS1 said:
Ms Tree, on 19 Dec 2015 - 5:44 PM, said:
With any luck we can kick ACA to the curb

 
Criminy! Do ANY of you fine liberals EVER listen to even yourselves? Wasn't the "ACA" the ultimate cure-all?...Yet now you cheer for the chance to "kick" it "to the curb" in favor of yet MORE guv-mint bungling, power-grabbing and special interest sucking up to come? When will you fools ever learn? Are you all simply insane or what?
They never get it. They demand their statist overlords do something, and when they do they screw it up even worse, then the liberals demand their statist overlords do something, rinse lather repeat.
 
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Ms Tree said:
 
 
It has worked far better than our corrupt system in the countries that have it. I think given US ingenuity and creativity we should be able to learn from the mistakes of others and create a better system.
Yes because the VA system is such a sterling model of government doing such a smashing job.

And let's really look at the other massive clusterfu which is the IHS.
 
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EastUS1 said:
Ms Tree, on 19 Dec 2015 - 5:44 PM, said:
With any luck we can kick ACA to the curb
 
Criminy! Do ANY of you fine liberals EVER listen to even yourselves? Wasn't the "ACA" the ultimate cure-all?...Yet now you cheer for the chance to "kick" it "to the curb" in favor of yet MORE guv-mint bungling, power-grabbing and special interest sucking up to come? When will you fools ever learn? Are you all simply insane or what?
 
No...HIllarycare was the ultimate cure all.  The biggest flaw in Obamacare is that it kept private insurance companies in the game.  Insurance companies are like Tom Brady in a playoff game...if they need to let a little air out of the ball to give them an advantage, they won't hesitate. 
 

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KCFlyer said:
 
No...HIllarycare was the ultimate cure all.  The biggest flaw in Obamacare is that it kept private insurance companies in the game.  Insurance companies are like Tom Brady in a playoff game...if they need to let a little air out of the ball to give them an advantage, they won't hesitate. 
 
What existing model for sustaining your fantasies actually (and through empirical evidence) at ALL exists anywhere in the world?
 
Seriously: Exactly WHICH nation would you have us model our health care after, and why?
 

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