Do the TWU MEMBERS matter anymore?

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Below is the procedure for change that Jim Little claimed was sufficient change and therefore he signed off the concessions without further ratification.

Did the deadline come and go for change without one union official asking the membership what they might be interested in changing?

Does the TWU MEMBER matter anymore?

What is the status of this special procedure?

C. Special Reopener Procedure for Change.



1. The parties agree that fFor a period not to exceed thirty (30) days beginning on written notice by the TWU no later than May 15, 2003, they Parties will meet and discuss the deletion or modification of a single item in the Restructuring Agreements, that is(the Original Provision), such as, the change to Article 34(d) of the Mechanic and related agreement regarding payment of Sick Leave for the first 16 hours at 50% and the substitution of one or more alternative items (the Offset Modification(s)) such that the net economic result of the deletion or modification and substitution provides cost savings to the Company equal to the cost savings originally projected by the Company for the Original Provision (i.e. $7.0 million per year).

The purpose of the discussion will be to reach an agreement on a modification of the ½ pay for sick provision along with a corresponding modification of the Agreement (“original offset modificationâ€￾) which have the net effect of not increasing the costs of the Agreement to American.



2. If the parties cannot reach agreement during the thirty (30) day period on the an oOffset mModification(s) having the appropriate aggregate value described in C.1., above,- they will select a neutral arbitrator in accordance with the System Board procedure in the Restructuring Agreement. Said arbitrator must be available to hear the matter with seven (7) days of selection and shall issue a decision within 21 days of selection.



3. The There willarbitrator shall conduct a hearing of no more than one day in duration. American and the TWU will each have a maximum of one-half day for its presentation, with appropriate procedural rules to be set by the arbitrator.



4. At the hearing, the TWUAssociation will identify one or more additionaloOffset mModification(s), the aggregate value of which must achieve the result described in C.1., above. will equal the difference between the cost of the ½ pay for sick provision modification and the Company’s valuation of the original offset modification proposed by the Association. For example, if the proposed modification to the Original Provision has a cost of $7 million and the Company arbitrator values the original oOffset mModification(s) at $6 million, the UnionAssociationwill must identify some additional oOffeset mModification(s) with a value of $1 million.



5. The Parties’ original valuation of the Restructuring Agreement will determine the value of the Original Provision. The arbitrator will determine the value of the originalall changes to less than all of the Original Provision, as well as the value of all oOffset mModification(s). If the arbitrator determines that the value of the Offset Modification(s) it is less in aggregate value to the Company than the cost of the modifications or deletions to the Original Provision, unless the TWU selects some additional Offset Modification(s) which achieves the result described in C.1., above, the arbitrator will ofurther modify the Original Provision so that the changes to the Original Provision compared to the aggregate value of the Offset Modifications(s) achieves the result described in C.1., above.



6. The decision of the arbitrator will be final and binding on the TWU and the Company.

THE TWU SUCKS!
 
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RV4

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I know the Local 514 Leadership have decided to build a new union (HALL/BUILDING) despite the fact that the members have voted such action down 3 times in the past.

DOES THE MEMBER MATTER ANYMORE?
 
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On 5/16/2003 8:14:34 AM RV4 wrote:


I know the Local 514 Leadership have decided to build a new union despite the fact that the members have voted such action down 3 times in the past.

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Isn''t that what you''re trying to do? Build a new union?
 
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On 5/16/2003 8:42:33 AM eolesen wrote:


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On 5/16/2003 8:14:34 AM RV4 wrote:


I know the Local 514 Leadership have decided to build a new union despite the fact that the members have voted such action down 3 times in the past.

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Isn''t that what you''re trying to do? Build a new union?

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Sorry, missed an important word.

NEW UNION HALL- As in Building!
 

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I believe the TWU Presidents council is Scheduled to meet in a couple of weeks to discuss the issues.

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Have a Great weekend all you TWU Brothers and Sisters and all you Union Brothers and Sisters who have not lost sight and choose NOT to be on the dark side of things.
 

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The Union hall has been put on hold until further notice.

To the TWU! ALL members matter!

Unlike the people who choose to be on the DARKSIDE! Like laying off over 60% and than putting their grivences on the back burner! and than asking their members they will be assessed 500 dollars to pay for their representation in advance or sell hotdogs!

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On 5/23/2003 10:20:34 AM Checking it Out wrote:


To the TWU! ALL members matter!

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There you go again proving our point. You seperate the member from the union in an ignorant statement.

You see, if the members really were the union, of course they would matter to themselves.

But you have to continue spewing the seperation of the two.

WHO IS THE TWU IN YOUR MIND ANYWAY?

Make your claim to those 3400 RIF'd workers who had job security wiped clean. Tell them how they "matter"!
 
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On 5/23/2003 10:14:05 AM Checking it Out wrote:


I believe the TWU Presidents council is Scheduled to meet in a couple of weeks to discuss the issues.

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Which of the huge list of issues and long list of industry leading concessions are they going to "discuss"? TWU is becoming just like management, many meetings and discussions, but resulting in little or no action.
 
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On 5/23/2003 10:14:05 AM Checking it Out wrote:


Have a Great weekend all you TWU Brothers and Sisters and all you Union Brothers and Sisters who have not lost sight and choose NOT to be on the dark side of things.


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Yep, we are having a great weekend alright. Working 8 hours on what used to be a paid Holiday until James C. Little showed up to represent our interest.
 

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Hey CIO, will the ATD office be open for business on Monday or do they still get the Holiday off?

Will you be working Monday?


To the TWU! ALL members matter!
As long as they pay dues!

Unlike the people who choose to be on the DARKSIDE!

You mean the darkside as in making a cowardly surrender instead of fighting back?


and than

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asking their members they will be assessed 500 dollars to pay for their representation in advance or sell hotdogs!



Beats asking their members to give away $20,000 per year for 5 years while they collect huge salaries off their dues and paying over $500 per year for that "service".
 

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So bob your advocating that you not represent your members unless they give you 500 dollars first? Way to go!

dave please show us where Jim Little voted to bring back the Contract for the Members to vote on?

Since the Staff at the ATD has a seperate contract you will need to ask them the Question! Please show us where the staff at amfa is unionised? Is Seham,McCormick or the Parttime Treasurer

I believe the TWU,IAM,IBT and the AFL-CIO works to improve all of the working class people in the US. Unlike amfa members who are looking out for their Individual self Interest! amfas beliefs is to screw everyone else at any cost! including their own members by laying them off to save a few! (amfa = darkside)

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On 5/24/2003 12:27:50 PM Checking it Out wrote:


Dave ? dah

You missed the point!

I believe the Presidents council voted to bring the TA back to members which Jim does not vote! What you are referring to is after the fact.

Help us all if you should succeed! I still predict you will fail in your Quest!

TWU SOLIDARITY!




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Oh I see now, under the TWU, the "Presidents Council" is the supreme authority?

Then why pass out and wear T-Shirts with the slogan "I AM THE UNION"?

And beyond that, WITHOUT FURTHER RATIFICATION was really all that mattered to Little Jim!

You still dont get it do you? AMFA supporters will quest until death, and then more will arrive on the scene. A quest to replace the most docile union in the industry isn't something that will just go away, until victory is achieved.

Interesting enough, we do not see that kind of passion defending the Indsutry Leading Concession Package.

In fact,
There are

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Total Signed Election Authorization Cards
 
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On 5/24/2003 11:16:06 AM Checking it Out wrote:




I believe the TWU,IAM,IBT and the AFL-CIO works to improve all of the working class people in the US. Unlike amfa members who are looking out for their Individual self Interest! amfas beliefs is to screw everyone else at any cost! including their own members by laying them off to save a few! (amfa = darkside)

TWU SOLIDARITY!



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******improve all of the working class people in the US*******

17.5 % Paycut
Loss of Longevity Pay
Loss of Skill/License Pay
Loss of Shift Differnetial
Loss of Weekend Premium Pay
Loss of Sick Days and Sick Pay
Loss of Job Security
Reduced Pension due to loss of of Pay.
Loss of 5 Paid Vacation Days
Loss of 5 Paid Holidays

CIO,

You Have Mechanics with 6 years of service, and license in their pockets now making $16.00 per hour.

How can you claim this is an "improvement" for all working people?

You say "(amfa = darkside)"

Well it appears the opposite is the TWU on the "light side", much lighter pacychecks equals much lighter wallet, much lighter pension, much lighter tax burden, much lighter benfit package...

Again, ask the members what they really think about "the light side"?

Jim Little vote to bring the contract back?? He didn't feel the need. Observe


AmericanAirlines[sup]®[/sup]
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[SIZE= 12pt]Mr. James C. Little[/SIZE]
[SIZE= 12pt]Director Air Transport Division[/SIZE]
[SIZE= 12pt]International Administrative Vice President [/SIZE]
[SIZE= 12pt]Transport Workers Union of America, AFL-CIO[/SIZE]
[SIZE= 12pt]1791 Hurstview Drive[/SIZE]
[SIZE= 12pt]Hurst, TX [/SIZE]76054
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[SIZE= 12pt]Dear Jim,[/SIZE]

[SIZE= 12pt]Whereas, American Airlines, Inc. (“American†or “Companyâ€) and the Transport Workers Union of America, AFL-CIO (“TWUâ€) have agreed to resolve all disputes which exist or could exist between them related to the negotiation, ratification, and their[/SIZE] final effectiveness acceptance of the Restructuring Agreement, dated April 15, 2003 ("Restructuring Agreement"), and
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[SIZE= 12pt]Whereas, American and the TWU (the "Parties") have each agreed that it is in their mutual interest to permit the Restructuring Agreement to become binding and effective.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE= 12pt]Now therefore, it is this 24th day of April 2003, hereby agreed that the following shall supplement, and, to the extent inconsistent, modify the Restructuring AgreementAnnual Incentive Program. [/SIZE]
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[SIZE= 12pt]The Company will establish an Annual Incentive Program (“Programâ€) that shall substitute for and replace the Variable Incentive Program included as part of the Agreement.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE= 12pt]e. Incentive payments will be distributed on April 1 of each calendar year during the term of the [/SIZE]program, based on the application of the incentive criteria during the preceding calendar year. All outstanding payments will be made no later than 60 days following termination of the program, payment for the portion of the calendar year in which termination occurs will be on a pro rata basis
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[SIZE= 12pt]The program will remain in effect through the term of the Agreement [/SIZE]
[SIZE= 12pt]and will terminate upon the ratification of the next basic agreement between American and APFA.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE= 12pt]A. [/SIZE]Duration of the Agreement. [SIZE= 12pt] [/SIZE]Contingent on approval of this Letter of Agreement by the AMR Board of Directors and the TWU and without further ratification, the April 30, 2Restructuring Agreement will be effective beginning April 15, 2003, and shall remain in effect for a period of five (5) years and become amendable April 30, 2008.
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[SIZE= 12pt]B. [/SIZE]Early Reopener[SIZE= 12pt]. [/SIZE]Either the American or the TWUAssociation may elect to reopen the Restructuring Agreement by the services of notices pursuant to 45 USC Sec. 156, on or after April 30, 20060.
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[SIZE= 12pt]C. Special Reopener[/SIZE] Procedure for Change[SIZE= 12pt]. [/SIZE]
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[SIZE= 12pt]1. [/SIZE][SIZE= 12pt]The parties agree that f[/SIZE]For a period not to exceed thirty (30) days beginning on written notice by the TWU no later than May 15, 2003, they Parties will meet and discuss the deletion or modification of a single item in the Restructuring Agreements, that is(the "Original Provision"), such as, the change to Article 34(d) of the Mechanic and related agreement regarding payment of Sick Leave for the first 16 hours at 50% and the substitution of one or more alternative items (the "Offset Modification(s)") such that the net economic result of the deletion or modification and substitution provides cost savings to the Company equal to the cost savings originally projected by the Company for the Original Provision (i.e. $7.0 million per year).
[SIZE= 12pt]The purpose of the discussion will be to reach an agreement on a modification of the ½ pay for sick provision [/SIZE]along with a corresponding modification of the Agreement (“original offset modificationâ€) which have the net effect of not increasing the costs of the Agreement to American.
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[SIZE= 12pt]2. [/SIZE][SIZE= 12pt]If the parties cannot reach agreement during the thirty (30) day period on the an [/SIZE]oOffset mModification(s) having the appropriate aggregate value described in C.1., above,- they will select a neutral arbitrator in accordance with the System Board procedure in the Restructuring Agreement. Said arbitrator must be available to hear the matter with seven (7) days of selection and shall issue a decision within 21 days of selection.
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[SIZE= 12pt]3. [/SIZE][SIZE= 12pt]The There will[/SIZE]arbitrator shall conduct a hearing of no more than one day in duration. American and the TWU will each have a maximum of one-half day for its presentation, with appropriate procedural rules to be set by the arbitrator.
[SIZE= 12pt] [/SIZE]
[SIZE= 12pt]4. [/SIZE][SIZE= 12pt]At the hearing, the TWUAssociation[/SIZE] will identify one or more additionaloOffset mModification(s), the aggregate value of which must achieve the result described in C.1., above. will equal the difference between the cost of the ½ pay for sick provision modification and the Company’s valuation of the original offset modification proposed by the Association. For example, if the proposed modification to the Original Provision has a cost of $7 million and the Company arbitrator values the original oOffset mModification(s) at $6 million, the UnionAssociationwill must identify some additional oOffeset mModification(s) with a value of $1 million.
[SIZE= 12pt] [/SIZE]
[SIZE= 12pt]5. [/SIZE][SIZE= 12pt]The Parties’ original valuation of the Restructuring Agreement will determine the value of the Original Provision. [/SIZE]The arbitrator will determine the value of the originalall changes to less than all of the Original Provision, as well as the value of all oOffset mModification(s). If the arbitrator determines that the value of the Offset Modification(s) it is less in aggregate value to the Company than the cost of the modifications or deletions to the Original Provision, unless the TWU selects some additional Offset Modification(s) which achieves the result described in C.1., above, the arbitrator will ofurther modify the Original Provision so that the changes to the Original Provision compared to the aggregate value of the Offset Modifications(s) achieves the result described in C.1., above.
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[SIZE= 12pt]6. [/SIZE][SIZE= 12pt]The decision of the arbitrator will be final and binding on the TWU and the Company.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE= 12pt]D. [/SIZE]Annual Incentive Program.
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[SIZE= 12pt]The Company will establish an Annual Incentive Program [/SIZE]
[SIZE= 12pt](“Programâ€), as set forth in Attachment A, that shall substitute for and [/SIZE]
[SIZE= 12pt]replace the Variable Wage Adjustment Program included in the Restructuring [/SIZE]
[SIZE= 12pt]Agreement.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE= 12pt]E. [/SIZE]Authority and Effective Date.
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[SIZE= 12pt]Execution of this Letter of Agreement shall constitute a representation by each party that the terms of this Letter of Agreement and of the Restructuring Agreement have been approved. [/SIZE]This Letter of Agreement will become final upon execution on this 24th day of April 2003.
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[SIZE= 12pt]For the Transport Workers Union of America, AFL-CIO: [/SIZE]
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[SIZE= 12pt]____________________________[/SIZE]
[SIZE= 12pt]James C. Little[/SIZE]
[SIZE= 12pt]Director Air Transport Division[/SIZE]
[SIZE= 12pt]International Administrative Vice President[/SIZE][SIZE= 12pt][/SIZE]
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Dave ? dah

You missed the point!

I believe the Presidents council voted to bring the TA back to members which Jim does not vote! What you are referring to is after the fact.

Help us all if you should succeed! I still predict you will fail in your Quest!

TWU SOLIDARITY!
 

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