EVA B773 - 600 ft below glide path on 28L

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Incident: EVA B773 at San Francisco on Jul 23rd 2013, descended below safe height

http://avherald.com/h?article=465e38db&opt=0

By Simon Hradecky, created Thursday, Jul 25th 2013 18:05Z, last updated Thursday, Jul 25th 2013 18:05Z

An EVA Airways Boeing 777-300, registration B-16701 performing flight BR-28 from Taipei (Taiwan) to San Francisco,CA (USA), was on final approach to San Francisco's 28L being cleared to land when the aircraft descended to about 600 feet about 3.8nm before the runway threshold (about 600 feet below glidepath, remaining glidepath angle 1.5 degrees instead of 3 degrees), tower warned the aircraft "climb immediately, altitude alert, altimeter 29.97", the crew initiated a go-around and positioned for another approach, that concluded in a safe landing about 13 minutes later.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/E...530Z/RCTP/KSFO
 

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Incident: EVA B773 at San Francisco on Jul 23rd 2013, descended below safe height

http://avherald.com/...=465e38db&opt=0

By Simon Hradecky, created Thursday, Jul 25th 2013 18:05Z, last updated Thursday, Jul 25th 2013 18:05Z

An EVA Airways Boeing 777-300, registration B-16701 performing flight BR-28 from Taipei (Taiwan) to San Francisco,CA (USA), was on final approach to San Francisco's 28L being cleared to land when the aircraft descended to about 600 feet about 3.8nm before the runway threshold (about 600 feet below glidepath, remaining glidepath angle 1.5 degrees instead of 3 degrees), tower warned the aircraft "climb immediately, altitude alert, altimeter 29.97", the crew initiated a go-around and positioned for another approach, that concluded in a safe landing about 13 minutes later.

http://flightaware.c....530Z/RCTP/KSFO

I wonder how many incidents like this happened prior to Asiana and this.

Have our pilots relied too much on technology?

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Glenn Quagmire

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My crew used to turn that Asiana flight at SFO. It was a 744 combi most days. I was not impressed with the way they operated. Nuff said.
 
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Foreign airlines urged to use GPS for SFO landings


[quote]All foreign airlines are now being advised to use a GPS system to guide landings onto the main runways at San Francisco International Airport, federal aviation officials said Sunday, a response to concern that some pilots for foreign carriers aren't adept enough at touching down manually.[/quote]

Since then, pilots for the South Korean airline and other foreign carriers have had more aborted landings than usual at SFO while attempting visual approaches, said the Federal Aviation Administration, which did not provide exact numbers.
Some aviation experts say pilots for foreign carriers can fail to master basic skills due to a reliance on automated instrument systems.

Well, this doesn't look good.
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Jim Tilmon, a former commercial pilot and aviation consultant in Arizona, said the GPS landing system should be effective, as long as the pilots are skilled at using it.

But he said, "The best and most reliable instrument in the cockpit is supposed to be the captain - his eyeballs and his experience. Apparently this is a weakness in some of the carriers - they rely too heavily on their instrumentation. It's kind of like a kid today who wants to drive a car but doesn't know how to drive a stick shift."
 

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