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there is rumor that when WN came to PHL that their management offered upgrades to the ATC PHL folks like upgrading their crew lounge and offering wide screen TV.... this has been going around for awhile.. if it has it needs to be addressed.. if it has not.. hey.. laugh and go on...hmmm when you hear such stories and see a WN flight go before you when according to ATC FLOW.. they should not have especially when the flight is leaving PHL at 10pm for US and we take a 2 hr ATC delay and WN gets to leave on time... hmmmmmmmmmmmmwe all know about FLOWWW Control. .... its been 3 years that WN has been there and all we hear is that WN came in sucked up to ATC personnel in PHL and that is just not right... :down: :down: :down:
 
wouldn't surprise me one bit.. I used to have to deal with local atc in phl and was told that they are one of the toughest groups of people to work with.

so I could easily see bribery in the form of perks working for that group
 
No doubt in my mind that SWA often gets atc preference. I have stood in terminal and watched there pushback and taxi out many times.
Typical for ATC to have SWA taxi out via S to SA and backdoor the runway. Have seen SWA pushback take runway 27L prior to many usair crafts that were awaiting takeoff in sequence prior to the SWA pushback. All it would take is for anyone in Mgt @ Usair to do thier job and monitor the unfairness. From past experience i will not hold my breath.

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thank you for the reply... this has been going on heresay since WN came to PHL and it was that WN went to PHL ATC and upgraded the PHLATC lounge and gave them WIDE SCREEN TVS... now if that is right then if PHL ATC is giving WN priority in ATC then this should be addressed. Im sure WN did it on a tired party . lets see.. the real thing would be... did PHL ATC has wide screen tv and upgraded employee rest areas PRIOR to WN coming to PHL... HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
 
thank you for the reply... this has been going on heresay since WN came to PHL and it was that WN went to PHL ATC and upgraded the PHLATC lounge and gave them WIDE SCREEN TVS... now if that is right then if PHL ATC is giving WN priority in ATC then this should be addressed. Im sure WN did it on a <<tired party>> . lets see.. the real thing would be... did PHL ATC has wide screen tv and upgraded employee rest areas PRIOR to WN coming to PHL... HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

What's a "tired party"???
Other than the above poster when the effects of the meth wear off... :wacko:
 
finally of all that has been going on these sites... lets start addressing the ISSUES.. now this upgrading of PHLATC employee loungens and those WIDE SCREEN TVS . just did not come from NYC or DCA CENTER .. they came from some where...
 
12 year old bottles of scotch, leather jackets etc etc they do all the time. Grease'n the palms pays dividends.
 
many frequent flyers of US and yes there are MANY know about the big time crap that the ATC is doing with WN they are operating from Terminal E and working themselves to D and finally A.. GOOOO D LUCK. PHLATC has been being KISSEDUP>> for a very long time and guess what its not working .. WE at the other airlines do not appreciate your low big time gifts to the PHLATC.. WN says sorry ... this is all talk.. but if it is not... ................................................................
 
many frequent flyers of US and yes there are MANY know about the big time crap that the ATC is doing with WN they are operating from Terminal E and working themselves to D and finally A.. GOOOO D LUCK. PHLATC has been being KISSEDUP>> for a very long time and guess what its not working .. WE at the other airlines do not appreciate your low big time gifts to the PHLATC.. WN says sorry ... this is all talk.. but if it is not... ................................................................

Ouch...why doesn't US just buy them some xboxs and offer all PHLATC employees unlimited space available travel...

Oh wait...they still wouldn't like U S.
 
there is rumor that when WN came to PHL that their management offered upgrades to the ATC PHL folks like upgrading their crew lounge and offering wide screen TV.... this has been going around for awhile.. if it has it needs to be addressed.. if it has not.. hey.. laugh and go on...hmmm when you hear such stories and see a WN flight go before you when according to ATC FLOW.. they should not have especially when the flight is leaving PHL at 10pm for US and we take a 2 hr ATC delay and WN gets to leave on time... hmmmmmmmmmmmmwe all know about FLOWWW Control. .... its been 3 years that WN has been there and all we hear is that WN came in sucked up to ATC personnel in PHL and that is just not right... :down: :down: :down:


Glad this has finally been noticed.

btw...as a long time west f/a ( who has been surrounded by WN for my whole career) i can tell you that this "bribary" has been going on by WN for many years at every airport in the country.

It is hilarious sometimes to be in the f/d and hear the WN guys whine and beg for short cuts and/ or taxi clearance and then race down the taxi-ways to make up time. Totally dangerous.

They are legendary for the pizza parties they hold for ATC and airport authorities too.

Also, ever notice at a WN gate that half the time the jetbridge door is wide open and totally unattended? That is not only a major no-no but a major fine by FAA if caught and they continually get away with it. Ever see that anywhere else?? Thought not.

Bunch of creeps who never have played by industry rules.
 
Ouch...why doesn't US just buy them some xboxs and offer all PHLATC employees unlimited space available travel...

Oh wait...they still wouldn't like U S.

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SURE IT IS !!

They do it all the time for the "brothers" so they will "show up" for work, during the holidays.
 
The same situation took place in EWR back when People Express started as well. They were the new darling of the Port Autority, and got everything they wanted/needed ahead of other carriers. I'm not sure of this carried on into the CO years or not.
 
All cynicism aside. if true, this is illegal and even a federal crime. COI rules are clear. If anyone has real evidence, go to the GAO or the Inquirer.
 
All cynicism aside. if true, this is illegal and even a federal crime. COI rules are clear. If anyone has real evidence, go to the GAO or the Inquirer.
Controllers at FAA staffed towers are federal employees.
 

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