Would someone puleeez tell me why the IAM and AFA continue their antics. It's called C11 my friend's. If UAL does not get out you won't have any benefits active or retired. Stop whining and get on with it. I for one don't like the fact that the company decided to increase your retirement insurance. Of course I don't like the fact they parked the 727 the 737-222 the DC-10, those bastards from the middle east who rammed planes into the WTC, pentagon, shanksville etc. We have to get on with it sacrifice and live to fight tommorrow. I'm confident UAL will survive and exit and believe it or not Tilton is doing a good job. Suck it up and move on.