How Much Should An Airline Mechanic Be Paid?
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thrustful jet, thets a no brainer because to be a plumber you must have a license by the state. a helper does not, so who will be held liable for the work and or repairs?.........THE PLUMBER! you see with a license you are accountable for your work, im not saying that a non licensed person is any less qualified, just that with your license comes more responsibility and liability, so you tell me who should make more!
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it's sad state of affairs when fixing a broken water line pays more than repairing a commercial jet which will have the thousands of lives at stake in one day, but i must say we've allowed this to happen thru inaction. this is a prime example why we must rid our craft of the industrial catch all union! are plumbers thrown in with busdrivers? ....NO THEY ARE NOT, THEY HAVE A CRAFT UNION!
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Hmmm....and to think you do not know what you are talking about!!!!jocko87 said:
Should a plumber make more than an airline maker or not?
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Don't lie Local 12...! Tell us how you really feel about the Non-Licensed Mechanics.local 12 proud said:
Come on now, I can hear it in your post's. You consider yourself far superior to the Un-Licensed Mechanics don't you Local 12...? You know the funny thing is the last time I checked it was not a requirement for employment at AA to be a Licensed Mechanic.....! Many of our Un-Licensed Mechanics have spent years in the Aerospace Industry even outside of AA, and have not been required to be licensed...... Careful what you say, someone may be listening......!!!!!!!!
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You are attempting to twist the facts, it is a plumber outside of American Airlines the thread is about. More power to this plumber to attract and receive his rate. It is the blatant socialistic representation by the TWU that has dumbed down the wages and the earning ability of the airline mechanics, in the whole industry, licensed or not.
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Well I looked at the plumber rates at the top of this thread and it shows a plumber making $65 an hour and the helper making $32.50 and hour.
Well I do not make as much as a plumber helper and yes I believe we should make more than a plumbers helper!!
Seems AA mechanics are paid towards the bottom of the industry in pay yet our stores and fleet service people are at the top of the industry for their craft and class.
Another reason we need AMFA!!!
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hss, once again you twist the facts and on top of that your apparently in the wrong buissness since you claim to be a mind reader and tells someone what they are really thinking. I SAID A PERSON WITH A LICENCE SHOULD RECIEVE A PREMIUM AS OPPOSED TO SOMEONE WITHOUT i also said a license does not make one more qualified, can you work the line station without a license?......NO because without it you cannot sign a logbook, does'nt mean your not cappable of the work. a mechanic in any capacity should recieve top wages, but yes thier is a premium for a LICENSE........now go sell your communist mantra to the citrus pickers, bartentenders, janitors, etc..... and tell them they should be making just below a surgeon's wages......better yet why not go organize in the former soviet union they once shared your ideaology!High Speed Steel said:
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All of you are missing the point. As aircraft mechanics we are legally responsible for our work. A plumber is not legally responsible for his work. Hell an A/P mechanic should be paid more.
Unless "Wayne" owns the plumbing business listed on this invoice, you can be sure he doesn't get paid the $65/hr shown. That's what his boss bills him out at. I know paralegals in large law firms whose hourly rate is over $100. Anyone stupid enough to think they get paid more than about 1/4 of that figure?
When you take your car in for repair do you think the mechanic gets paid the $65-$75 hourly rate that is becoming more and more common?
What hourly rate does AA charge other airlines for maintenance? Exactly what it pays you? Yeah, and AA really does have a secret vault full of money hidden away somewhere at DFW.
I've seen pointless threads before but this thread is over the top. B)
When you take your car in for repair do you think the mechanic gets paid the $65-$75 hourly rate that is becoming more and more common?
What hourly rate does AA charge other airlines for maintenance? Exactly what it pays you? Yeah, and AA really does have a secret vault full of money hidden away somewhere at DFW.
I've seen pointless threads before but this thread is over the top. B)
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I will defend my thread.
I understand exactly what you are saying. The $65 is not the going rate for the plumber. However at American the fully allocated labor rate is around $90 an hour. So you tell me what the mechanics top wage should be. And while you are passing judgment on this issue could you relate what your profession is, please?
I understand exactly what you are saying. The $65 is not the going rate for the plumber. However at American the fully allocated labor rate is around $90 an hour. So you tell me what the mechanics top wage should be. And while you are passing judgment on this issue could you relate what your profession is, please?
Perhaps I was a little harsh about the perceived "pointlessness" of the thread. How much an airline mechanic should be paid is not a pointless discussion; comparing the billing rate for plumbers to MX W-2 wages seemed to go nowhere. My comments were directed toward that comparison. I apologize for the unnecessary harshness.Buck said:
It would seem that a better comparison would be to the W-2 wages of other airline mechanics (or Mr Goodwrench employees, for that matter). Everyone knows that AA's mechanics make roughly $10k less than WN's mechanics. And WN just posted a profit of $26 million, so they could afford to pay more.
I am underworked and overpaid. As a self-employed professional, I determine my income and working hours.
If I want less work (it happens!), I simply quote a higher hourly rate (which eventually lessens demand) until I have as much work as I want at the income level I desire.
What is the proper wage level for AA's mechanics? None of my business, really.
If I were lobbying for you, I'd say, much higher than they currently are. Too bad the company isn't rolling in profits and can't afford to increase them right now.
The company line would be: No higher than it takes to get you to come to work. In fact, press them downward until some start to quit. Raise them if replacements refuse to start at the new lower wages.
If not for all the handcuffs (seniority, pension, etc) binding you to AA, if I were an AA mechanic, I'd seriously think about trying to get in on the ground floor of one of the profitable airlines rather than trying to squeeze the last drop from a dinosaur like AA (even though Bob Owens continues to think that AA's woes are just "temporary").
They may be, but if they aren't temporary, then the mechanics at WN, B6, FL and the other profitable LCCs are going to have good jobs (and very valuable stock) compared to AA's mechanics, out of work and complaining that their pension was ransacked.
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