How will the new medical info disclosure law affect med. and brvmnt. fare policies?

Dec 21, 2002
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Evidently, this past 4/14th started a new nationwide law that restricts hospitals or med facilities from disclosing third party info to anyone about a patient, even as far as not having to advise if someone is in the hospital. So how will this affect the verification process for these reduced med emergcy fares? I know in the past it was never policy to call the funeral home for bereavement verification, so now, to get the discount, will family members all be incorrectly referred to as deceased instead of hospitalized for emergency?

SUMMARY OF NEW RIGHTS(last paragraph most applicable):
Doctors and hospitals are barred from giving out patient information to third parties for marketing purposes or to employers, unless a patient specifically agrees.

Patients have a right to know if their records have been shared with law-enforcement or with public-health authorities.

Patients have the right to examine their medical records and to request corrections.

Health-care companies may not disclose patient information beyond what is minimally necessary to deliver care.
Patients may prohibit hospitals from giving information about their condition to family, friends, clergy and reporters who call. Most hospitals have new policies about giving information about a patient''s condition. This was once routinely provided to family, friends, clergy and reporters who called. Under the new rules, hospitals must give patients a chance to opt out of any hospital directory. No information -- even that a patient is in the hospital -- may be released if a patient objects. Even if a patient should agree to a general listing, hospitals may release only limited information without specific authorization and only if a caller asks about a patient by name.
 
Don''t confuse the government with real life issues. HIPAA (the privacy act) is a great example of Congress trying to legislate common sense. I work in public health and we''ve already been doing 99% of what HIPAA calls for, but somebody decided it would be great if we could codify common sense. And they''ll fine individuals and institutions pretty severely...AND threaten individuals with a prison sentence. So most institutions are going to err on the conservative side. If that means that a hospital will not release information that yes, Mr. John Smith is dying of cancer this very minute so that John Smith Jr can get a bereavement fare, so be it. Better J. SMith Jr. pay a thousand extra dollars than risk a quarter of a million dollar fine against the hospital or hospice for disclosing "privleged" information.
 
KCFlyer-

Oh, just wait. You think things are difficult because the politicians have got into the common sense business.... just wait until the lawyers show up!!!!

You''ll be so buried in due process, you''ll never find the common sense.
 
Nowhere in the medical policy does it say you have to ask what condition the patient is in. The only problem is when you ask if that patient is in the hospital--if they''re not on the list you won''t know. How many critical people in hospitals do you know who request no information be given out and taken off the list? Those people usually have their own private jets anyway. If you know what I mean. The person traveling to the hospital already needs to know the hospital name, address, phone number and Dr''s name. They only need to verify if the patient is there. Worse comes to worse--ask for the room then hang up when it''s put through.
 
drifter - you''d be surprised how much uncertainty there is around HIPAA. And most places I know of are choosing to err on the side of safety. And RowunderDCA is right...it''s going to be a field day for lawyers. Imagine - pops takes ill, son calls the airline asking for a bereavement fare - gives them the name of the hospital he''s in, the person on the phone feels the compassion and tells them that yes...pops is deathly ill. Pops dies, but unfortunately, his life insurance money is not enough to maintain mom in the lifestyle she had become accustomed. No problem...mom sues the hospital for releasing privleged information. Mark my words - it''ll happen.
 
That''s sad. I know, my Dad is terminally ill and I know if I need to get there I''ll need all the help I can get. These lawyers need to have it happen to them some day--but then they have enough money to get them there on full fares. We need to all remember what we did for ---heck can''t remember his name---the guy on MASH. He was so impressed he became Piedmont''s spokesperson and came around and thanked everyone in the res centers.
 
Pitbull - bottom line - in the event of an accident, yes the family can be notified. It''s SUPPOSED to protect your privacy - don''t discuss cases within earshot of others, don''t leave medical records laying around, don''t leave computer information accessible...pretty much common sense stuff that has been going on all along anyhow. But now it''s been codified so common sense takes up several thousand pages of documentation and several millions of dollars in consultant fees from doctors/hospitals/public health departments to consultants who STILL aren''t in agreement on just exactly what the standards are.
 
Only problem I have with this is...

What if your spouse or child (who is considered an adult or in college), is in a severe accident and is unconsious. Can a hospital notify the family? Can they tell the family exactly what is wrong with the child or spouse? I don''t believe this kind of legislation was to prevent a family member of knowing a loved ones condition in order to make a decision of treatment and care, if the child or spouse is unable.

Does anyone know? I have not been fully educated on this yet. Anyone have any educated insight?
 
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On 4/19/2003 4:38:13 PM drifterreno wrote:

We need to all remember what we did for ---heck can''t remember his name---the guy on MASH. He was so impressed he became Piedmont''s spokesperson and came around and thanked everyone in the res centers.

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McLean Stevenson..boy those were the days,...oops, no, that was Carroll O Connor''s theme.
 
Actually, a very lovely story regarding Mr. Stevenson. He needed to get from LAX to NYC ASAP for his dying father. He ran into some snag with another carrier in LAX. A PI agent saw the commotion, and recognized McLean. The agent told McLean, "come with me, we'll get you there." There was no hassle with reissues or fees - we had the authority in those days to do the right thing. Mclean was placed in first class, escorted at his connection, escorted to ground transportation in NYC, and made it to his father's side just before he died.

After it was over, McLean asked one of his guys "who were those guys in the ugly blue jackets (PI's supervisor jackets were electric blue in those days)who helped me out? I want to make it up to them." He was hooked up with our CEO, Bill Howard, and offered to do anything he could. He was made ambassador for PI and a great ad campaign followed.

I guess that's why the crap we've endured at U is so hard to take - I know there's a better way.
 
The commercial gallery is both instructive and, for ex-PI''ers, poignant.

The commercials reveal a company than knew what it was, where it was going, and who got it there (management, employees AND customers). Not intimidated in the least by the big boys.

I can never watch that 727 bearing down on the spokesman without a lump in my throat.

With apologies to Col. Moore, "we were an airline once, and young."