IAM Fleet Service topic

[Tim Nelson]

For twenty some years you have been talking about solidarity and promoting yourself.

True, I have been talking about solidarity. But I have also come through and built solidarity under the authority and responsibilities I had under your dime. Organizing under a union logo that most folks have been voting out was difficult but not when we built powerful teams and grew solidarity. Solidarity can exist within your group also but it starts with leadership. Those who have the authority and responsibility should know how to build solidarity and should know that a basic recipe includes sending the information and knowledge to the masses. Unfortunately, the masses are not empowered right now because the labor leaders want to keep everyone ignorant and deaf.

As far as promoting myself, I never did, I have always yielded and supported others running for office. Don't get me wrong, I have always spoke out, especially warning you guys all about how terrible the IAM pension would be back in 2003. But this time is different, yes, I am promoting myself and I will vote for myself as President.

When voting, the most important thing to consider is the leadership qualities and proven record that an individual has/had while having the authority and responsibility on your dime. I admit I am biased, but I think the scoreboard clearly shows that I was very aggressive on your dime and a proven winner under the authorities that were vested in my leadership.

Onward!

Tim

 

[Dog Wonder]

You can beat your own drum all day.

Tim Nelson's personal union delaying US Airways Ramp representation long enough for the company to strip jobs and benefits was best example of how your personal ambition trumps solidarity.

 

[necigrad]

Besides, it's not called infighting, it's called democracy. If those guys did their jobs then they wouldn't have created 3 other tickets against them.

regards,

Tim Nelson

And I can guarantee that next election, whoever is elected or reelected this time will have the same thing said again. There will ALWAYS be one or more people critical of a sitting group insisting that they can do it better. It's the nature of politics.

 

[Tim Nelson]

You can beat your own drum all day.

Tim Nelson's personal union delaying US Airways Ramp representation long enough for the company to strip jobs and benefits was best example of how your personal ambition trumps solidarity.

Dog Wonder,

There were 4 unions vying to represent rampers back in the early 90's. How did the independent union that I supported have anything at all to do with delaying ramp representation? Odd, because I remember the teamsters telling me that if it wasn't for me, they would have lost the PSA/US AIRWAYS vote. A vote in which they only won by 18 votes. I was not represented at that time, but that didn't stop me, and my travel passes were put on probation by WF, both mine and SM's. Even that didn't stop me for fighting with my brothers and sisters at the old USair, even though I wasn't a USair employee.

At any rate, there was some validity to your argument. Have I been wrong? Well, hell yeah I have! I screwed up and filed short on cards for customer service That was my bad and I take full responsibility for it. I was also a member in bad standing with the IAM, as well I should have been. As much success that I have had with unions, I have also had failures.

Nonetheless, the truth remains. The masses need someone who knows how to build solidarity and has proven success in a leadership position on the dime of the masses.
You can not refute that when I was on your dime, i.e., the only time that I had the full authority and responsibility to secure and further your union, .....We won and were incredibly successful against management and other unions. Under my authority as head coach leading an entire department in our union, we filled a basketball arena with 17,000 voters. And it was done because of the recognition of team building and solidarity building.

Onward!

Tim Nelson

 

[Tim Nelson]

... There will ALWAYS be one or more people critical of a sitting group insisting that they can do it better. It's the nature of politics...

true enough necigrad,

but when one is critical of the present situaiton and sacrifices a high paying job for it to throw bags in 20 degree weather tonight, it's the nature of beliefs. Hopefully, I won't be the last to do such.

regards,

Tim Nelson

 

[Dog Wonder]

There were two unions on the ballot. After losing a very close IBT election the workers needed a nudge to be represented. Instead they got a pissing match telling them how the other union was corrupt. The damage has never been repaired.

On the whole you have done more harm than good.

 

[IAM Informer]

You can beat your own drum all day.

Tim Nelson's personal union delaying US Airways Ramp representation long enough for the company to strip jobs and benefits was best example of how your personal ambition trumps solidarity.

Sorry Dog your memory must be dulling from all the fumes you inhale, the membership was striped of all the benefits 24 hrs AFTER the Piedmont guys VOTED OUT THE TEAMSTERS.
the Decert came out on a thursday and on Friday the company was passing out the NEW PDO program which cost us vacation and sick time. Now How in the H#ll did Nelson have anything
to do with that.

Nelson was responsible for bringing in 3600 NEW MEMBERS (first time in over 10 yrs ) and helped secure that UA got the vote over the teamsters by EDUCATING the CO employees
again Tim was involved in ORGANIZING not REPRESENTATION those fumbles you can thank your PDGC's (Former and Present) for all the JOB LOSSES and the continue JOB LOSSES
that will be coming down the pike in a few months. Ask your AGC what the District is doing about blocking the company from invoking further cuts in Feb.

Get your facts straight

 

[IAM Informer]

Dog,
Since Tim has done much harm to the membership , the question I have for you is what have you done for the betterment of the membership and being a mouth piece for
management doesn't count so lets be as honest as possible and give 2 examples of what YOU the great DOG WONDER have done to build solidarity , educate and hold management
accountable. CLT would love to know. I believe thats your base

 

[Dog Wonder]

I never said I was great. And the stripping of benefits and outsourcing continued long after the workers weren't represented.

But I was on the organizing commitee for two campaigns, including the successful one.

Thanks for caring enough to rant.

 

[Tim Nelson]

There were two unions on the ballot. After losing a very close IBT election the workers needed a nudge to be represented. Instead they got a pissing match telling them how the other union was corrupt. The damage has never been repaired.

On the whole you have done more harm than good.

By who's authority is it granted to repair the damage and build solidarity? And whose witness is it that there is no solidarity? Isn't someone getting paid boatloads to do that basic thing? And you are going to tag such things to me when I wasn't authorized with the responsibility to build such things in the representational arm of this union? If, I am priviliged enough to become the President of this union and obtain the authority to lead this union, and I don't build solidarity and repair damage and reconcile the different tribes, then accuse me.

By the authorities granted to me over the past two years to Lead and Direct the Organizing department, all I did was build solidarity...and plenty of it.

Onward!

Tim Nelson

 

[Dog Wonder]

The damage you did will never be repaired.

Don't blame that on some one else.

 

[freedom]

Dog,
Since Tim has done much harm to the membership , the question I have for you is what have you done for the betterment of the membership and being a mouth piece for
management doesn't count so lets be as honest as possible and give 2 examples of what YOU the great DOG WONDER have done to build solidarity , educate and hold management
accountable. CLT would love to know. I believe thats your base

LOL dog maybe many things , but i have yet to see him be a mouth piece for managment .....

 

[Tim Nelson]

The damage you did will never be repaired.

Don't blame that on some one else.

What damage? Personal damage? Or corporate [community] damage that now prevents your group from obtaining leading industry wages/benefits? Personal damage can be healed through confessing towards eachother. If that is what you are talking about then talk to me personally or call me. If you are talking about corporate damage then I certainly don't share your view as my belief is that the ramp can once again become the strongest union on the property, and I believe it is free to do so with no previous bondage.

At any rate, this officer election will be the first time in which the masses will have a choice between two members who have directed and lead a department within the union. Last time, Delaney ran for President as an assistant general chairman, so we didn't finally know if he was capable of actually leading. What we found out was that he was more of a facilitator, as opposed to a leader. I mean he may have been a good assistant coach but clearly not a good head coach. OTOH, I have shown that I was capable directing a very important arm of this great union and incredibly successful because of the teams of solid members that I was able to delegate and empower. Plus, it's time that US AIRWAYS members think if they still want to be treated only second best to United.

But, whoever wins the presidency, there still must be safeguards. My platform is loaded with safeguards that would keep me accountable. I have seen many a good union man and woman go into these high paying jobs and then the money makes them flip like pancakes and corrupts them. All of us have seen it repeatedly. Certainly, I can't walk into the job thinking I'm above the same temptations as those before me. So, IMO, there has to be safeguards and accountability measures that keep myself and your eboard fully accountable to the masses who are served. I have attempted to build safeguards into my platform to protect all of us from just repeating another dopey cycle of tic tac toe where nobody wins.

Gotta hit facebook real quick tonight before I hit the sack so I gotta jet Dog Wonder. Nice chatting.

Onward!

Tim Nelson

 

[Dog Wonder]

Personal damage, to me and a thousands of other 'Ramp Professionals'. Instead of status quo we got PDOs, no holidays, and lost Cargo and Express. Seniority went backward.

Carry on.

 

[700UW]

The infamous, file short on cards and have a one year bar.

And the losses you currently work under are from two bankruptcies in less than two years, I guess you all seem to forget that, dont you?

Everyone at UA, AA, DL, NW, CO all took concessions, even AA, and they are now getting ready for more cuts.

No one at the major airlines were immune to concessions due to 9/11, SARS and Fuel Costs.