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November 3. 2005
William O'Driscoll
President & Directing General Chairman
Air Transport District 142,IAM
400 N.E. 32nd Avenue
Kansas City, MO 64116
via certified letter
Dear Mr. O'Driscoll:

I've read your latest letter to the USAirways employees dated October 18, 2005 and am offended that you and other IAM representatives would use management-style scare tactics designed to panic employees into staying IAM. USAirways mechanics, utility and stock clerks have been through enough already from the company and the bankruptcy judge, without being manipulated and deceived by the IAM. They deserve more from a union.

Below are issues that you and other IAM officials are manipulating:

You've already surrendered the right to renegotiate both agreements after the certification of a single carrier by the NMB. Worse, you are deceiving your members by claiming that the issue is whether the 1AM agreement "survives." Anyone with experience under the Railway Labor Act knows that the two agreements continue as the "status quo" after the single carrier proceeding. It is not an option for management to negotiate, the company is legally obligated. You have given up the employees' right to renegotiate their agreement and never informed the members of their right to renegotiate in the first place.

The Teamsters are committed to renegotiate the substandard IAM agreement after it is certified by the NMB. We did the same thing at Piedmont when we beat IAM to represent the mechanics and related employees there. Though IAM used the same manipulation with the Piedmont employees, telling them that they'd be stuck with an inferior !AM agreement after the merger, the Piedmont employees ignored your lies and voted for the IBT. Now the Piedmont mechanics are in bargaining for a new agreement to replace their low-wage IAM contract. The USAirways employees will get the same opportunity-only when they are represented by ihe 1BT.

You blatantly lied about the Teamsters and our contract with America West Airlines. The IAM agreement has lower hourly rates, no shift differential, lower license premiums, and inferior overtime accumulation than the Teamsters at AWA. AWA Teamsters also have superior sick pay, holidays, and vacation time accrual. Since you refuse to provide your members with a copy of their own agreement from January 2005, the Teamsters posted both the AWA and USAirways contracts on line so that members can read and compare for themselves at www.teamsterslocal 104.org.

The Teamsters are outraged that you would impose your substandard agreement on us.
Under the IAM contract, the AWA mechanics would take an across the board wage and benefit cuts. The GSE and stock clerks would benefit monetarily, only if they are employed long enough. Your scope language endangers these jobs by allowing the company to contract out their work in outstations without limitation.
You also make false claims about scope protections by asserting that the IAM scope agreement would bring in-house work that has been outsourced at AWA since before the IBT came on the property. The fact is that IAM could not prevent the outsourcing of heavy maintenance work on Airbuses as that plainly belongs to the USAirways AMTs. Also, every IAM scope clause, including the USAirways IAM scope clause, permits companies to continue historic outsourcing. No IAM agreement has provisions to capture outsourced work. Indeed, the USAirways IAM scope clause has no prohibition on subcontracting. There is no presumption against subcontracting under your agreement.

In contrast, the IBT has won scope clauses that prohibit subcontracting and permit it only within strict limitations. Further, IBT agreements require the company to create full-time positions from subcontracted line maintenance work. IBT agreements also require creation of new heavy maintenance lines to grow headcount. The IBT's scope proposals to AWA in current bargaining seek to gain these protections and the current language protects work that is done now. No IAM agreement anywhere in the industry has such protections, and you have made clear you will not seek such protections for the USAirways employees.

The Teamsters have industry-leading scope and work-capture protections. Unlike IAM, the IBT has not lost work that had long been performed in-house. Rather, we're working on gaining work in the future over and above what we've historically done.

You won't tell them—but the members need to know that the only way for them to renegotiate the substandard IAM agreement at USAirways is to sign a card and vote Teamster.

Unlike the IAM, we believe that both contracts require dramatic improvements and we are negotiating those improvements with AWA right now. We are not satisfied with either our first contract with AWA or your bankruptcy contract and believe that the members deserve more with a Union that is willing to fight for more.

You have conditioned this workforce to expect the very least from their union and you deliver
every time. By joining the Teamsters, the members will a have a say in their contract, be
informed of decisions that affect them, have an opportunity to read all agreements made by the
Union and company, and vote on their contracts by mail ballot. We know that the members are
aware of what is best for them.

Finally, in order to set the record straight, I challenge you and any other IAM representatives to a debate, at any location, at any union hall, in any city. Make your case and defend your positions in front of the membership. Let them decide who is straightfonvard and who is misrepresenting the facts. I am available any day of the week.

Sincerely,


Andrew Marshall
Secretary-Treasurer


Cc:
James P. Hoffa, General President
Don Treichler, Airline Division Director
Tom Buffenberger, LAM President
Teamsters Membership
 

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this letter pretty much says it all about the IAM. But it should have included that the union dues were raised to $44.90 for full timers and $30.90 for part timers and the fact that severance checks had to include payign them dues. other than that the letter is the truth about the iam
 

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robbedagain,

Let me explain this to you once again, all this rhetoric is about the ibt and the IAM for Mechanic and Related, not fleet service.

Fleet at HP is TWU not ibt.

And dues are set at the local lodges by your bylaws and voted on by the membership, at my local dues went down as pay rates went down.

Don't let the facts get in your way.
 

gonzo

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Some how I don't see the IAM accepting the challenge in a timely manner. Andy Marshall of Teamsters Local 104 has stepped up to the plate. Will the IAM?
 

awajetfxer

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Let the Debates begin! We will see who is the Master Debater or Masterbater!

You Decide!

Hope to see everyone at the meeting tomorrow in Tempe.
 

gonzo

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robbedagain,

Let me explain this to you once again, all this rhetoric is about the ibt and the IAM for Mechanic and Related, not fleet service.

Fleet at HP is TWU not ibt.

And dues are set at the local lodges by your bylaws and voted on by the membership, at my local dues went down as pay rates went down.

Don't let the facts get in your way.
Your lessons might be better served by using a PM. :)
 

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Observation

If 700UW is either,

A: Posting a great number of times trying to refute the naysayers

B: Starts spouting obscure rules and minutia

You can bet your last nickel that his union has been caught lieing or is looking extremely bad. If I challenge him he'll bring up the whole "Xerox thing" in an effort to discredit. So let's see how much time and how many posts he has here by say Friday then you can gauge who to believe.


I hope that you all strike, that way the union can be dissolved and we can get the business at hand, running a profitable company! LESS UNION THE BETTER!
 

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Has anybody mentioned lately that the IAM also agreed to do struck work at NWA! I think there should be debates system wide. I would like to know how they helped improve working conditions for Americans by agreeing to do struck work and if they have any problems with another union performing work while there members were on strike?
 
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700UW Posted Today, 10:17 AM

Let me explain this to you once again, all this rhetoric is about the ibt and the IAM for Mechanic and Related, not fleet service.
Fleet at HP is TWU not ibt.
Don't let the facts get in your way.

NO!! #7

It is the IAM as a whole and You won't tell them—but the members need to know that the only way for them to renegotiate the substandard IAM agreement at USAirways is to sign a card and vote Teamster.
 

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robbedagain,

Let me explain this to you once again, all this rhetoric is about the ibt and the IAM for Mechanic and Related, not fleet service.

Fleet at HP is TWU not ibt.

And dues are set at the local lodges by your bylaws and voted on by the membership, at my local dues went down as pay rates went down.

Don't let the facts get in your way.
you can pm me anytime and tell me that when this is your board. but as far as the title goes, this is for all who are interested in reading IAM info. not the mech only.
 

gonzo

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you can pm me anytime and tell me that when this is your board. but as far as the title goes, this is for all who are interested in reading IAM info. not the mech only.

Good Job robbedagain
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Has anybody mentioned lately that the IAM also agreed to do struck work at NWA! I think there should be debates system wide. I would like to know how they helped improve working conditions for Americans by agreeing to do struck work and if they have any problems with another union performing work while there members were on strike?


WHAT!?!? Are you sure of this?
 

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There is no way the IAM will step up and accept the debate. They do everything they can to not let membership decide anything (i.e. - planners accretion), and then blame their hands are tied by someone else (in that case the feds).