Looks like trouble for the scab workforce and NWA is looming.
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Is Faa Hiding Nwa Strike's Affect On Safety?
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Sorry bad link, this one should work better
http://www.aero-news.net/news/commair.cfm?...ews/commair.cfm
http://www.aero-news.net/news/commair.cfm?...ews/commair.cfm
Made USA today as well....except seems now NW claims the inspector was trying to intimidate the replacement workers.....
Regardless of your opinion on the strike, do you think the investigation will uncover the truth?
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2005-0...mechanics_x.htm
Regardless of your opinion on the strike, do you think the investigation will uncover the truth?
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2005-0...mechanics_x.htm
Speaking of handouts......were northwest strikers instructed not to approach passsengers? I've seen several with flyers who stand there and do not engage customers in conversation or attempt to pass out the flyers.
I've flown 3 times via MSP since the strike and when entering the terminal look directly at the person but don't say anything and they've never tried to engage me in conversation nor hand me a flyer.
I've flown 3 times via MSP since the strike and when entering the terminal look directly at the person but don't say anything and they've never tried to engage me in conversation nor hand me a flyer.
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Why should they talk to a SCAB? If people ask about what is going on,we will gladly explain the situation to them and hand them a flyer if they so desire one.
NWAMSP said:
The picketing rules at various airports differ slightly but one constant is that strikers cannot "impede passengers". Different airports apply this rule in different manners, but at my airport strikers are restricted to a set area and cannot leave that area to hand out flyers, although if approached they are free to engage in conversation or distribute materials. Usually simply making eye contact and smiling are enough and passenger response has been outstanding.
That's OK AA-MCI, I assume it isn't the first time you thought wrong.
Do you not think that there are people who disagree with the tactics and leadership of NWA and also think that unions have by their own hands ignored the global marketplace made themselves antiquated given their current state?
Do you not think there are people who have worked in other industries that have faced outsourcing for many more years than the airline industry? Do you know what they have found out? The higher the skill level needed to perform the work, the greater the chance the work comes back in-house. While in some countries you can hire 3 employees to 1 here in the US, those three employees are not any more efficient or effective as the 1 here at home. During the 80s outsourcing computer programming to foreign countries was all the rage. Many of those jobs have come back. Even customer service centers in some industries that went overseas are returning.
Do you think that there are not people who think that the current level of safety at NWA isn't as high as it was 3 months ago but that some of the replacement workers might actually know what they are doing and if given the proper training that a AMFA mech goes through when hired could be a first rate mechanic.
Do you not think that there are people who can understand someone trying to protect their job and has in the past given even given concessions in previous contract negotiations and find it odd that the same worker walks away from that job and resorts to at best childish when replaced? While not the majority I am sure, the media loves to focus on those that do. I would suggest instead of chanting scabs go home and other original slogans that you get a tv news crew approach the hanger and suggest that your there to offer advice and consultation to the replacement workers as you are concerned about the public's safety and can provide valuable knowledge about the quirks of each ship in the fleet. The response from management to that request on national media would do much better in the union's pr efforts than the ScabHunter t-shirts and punctured bus tires.
Do you not think there are people who wonder why losing 53% of your coworkers is worth fighting for but not 30% of them? If NW would have accepted AMFA's last proposal - 20% pay cut with 30% reduction in the number of mechanics, custodians and cleaners (odd - haven't heard to much about the custodians and cleaners during this strike - its mostly been mechanics, mechanics, mechanics) - how many of you would have voted for that proposal? Would you have gotten a chance to vote on it?
Do think that there are people who do not understand that the NW mechanics were given no choice but to strike? NW clearly wants to file Chapter 11 or at least get a government concession on pension funding before it becomes willing to negotiate more equitably with the unions.
Finally, there was an interview on KARE-11 last night that I would like to share because it made me aware that not all union members were acting like 2 year olds. I believe this gentleman was walking the picket line at MSP. As he was talking to the reporter - he gave them the basic talking points from the hotline but then said that he had a roof over his head, had food on the table and that everyone should be more concerned with the victims of hurricane Katrina.
No scabhunter tshirt, no scabs go home or we have your picture name and address placard. Just a union on strike poster, a simple we know what we're risking and we still choose to fight, don't be concerned about us there are people less fortunate that currently need your attention. Too bad that man wasn't a union spokesman...he could have swayed public opinion in a few weeks. It was odd, he kind of reminded me of what I thought of union member's when I was child.
Do you not think that there are people who disagree with the tactics and leadership of NWA and also think that unions have by their own hands ignored the global marketplace made themselves antiquated given their current state?
Do you not think there are people who have worked in other industries that have faced outsourcing for many more years than the airline industry? Do you know what they have found out? The higher the skill level needed to perform the work, the greater the chance the work comes back in-house. While in some countries you can hire 3 employees to 1 here in the US, those three employees are not any more efficient or effective as the 1 here at home. During the 80s outsourcing computer programming to foreign countries was all the rage. Many of those jobs have come back. Even customer service centers in some industries that went overseas are returning.
Do you think that there are not people who think that the current level of safety at NWA isn't as high as it was 3 months ago but that some of the replacement workers might actually know what they are doing and if given the proper training that a AMFA mech goes through when hired could be a first rate mechanic.
Do you not think that there are people who can understand someone trying to protect their job and has in the past given even given concessions in previous contract negotiations and find it odd that the same worker walks away from that job and resorts to at best childish when replaced? While not the majority I am sure, the media loves to focus on those that do. I would suggest instead of chanting scabs go home and other original slogans that you get a tv news crew approach the hanger and suggest that your there to offer advice and consultation to the replacement workers as you are concerned about the public's safety and can provide valuable knowledge about the quirks of each ship in the fleet. The response from management to that request on national media would do much better in the union's pr efforts than the ScabHunter t-shirts and punctured bus tires.
Do you not think there are people who wonder why losing 53% of your coworkers is worth fighting for but not 30% of them? If NW would have accepted AMFA's last proposal - 20% pay cut with 30% reduction in the number of mechanics, custodians and cleaners (odd - haven't heard to much about the custodians and cleaners during this strike - its mostly been mechanics, mechanics, mechanics) - how many of you would have voted for that proposal? Would you have gotten a chance to vote on it?
Do think that there are people who do not understand that the NW mechanics were given no choice but to strike? NW clearly wants to file Chapter 11 or at least get a government concession on pension funding before it becomes willing to negotiate more equitably with the unions.
Finally, there was an interview on KARE-11 last night that I would like to share because it made me aware that not all union members were acting like 2 year olds. I believe this gentleman was walking the picket line at MSP. As he was talking to the reporter - he gave them the basic talking points from the hotline but then said that he had a roof over his head, had food on the table and that everyone should be more concerned with the victims of hurricane Katrina.
No scabhunter tshirt, no scabs go home or we have your picture name and address placard. Just a union on strike poster, a simple we know what we're risking and we still choose to fight, don't be concerned about us there are people less fortunate that currently need your attention. Too bad that man wasn't a union spokesman...he could have swayed public opinion in a few weeks. It was odd, he kind of reminded me of what I thought of union member's when I was child.
Never underestimate the effects of bad maintenance.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/09/07...reut/index.html
“The failure of the plane to pressurize stemmed from maintenance the night before the flight, the report said. The maintenance crew apparently left a pressurization controller rotary knob out of place and the crew did not catch the mistake during preflight checks the next day, it said.â€
Hey, but it's cost effective to force your experienced mechanics on strike and replace them with guys drinking a beer on the way to work.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/09/07...reut/index.html
“The failure of the plane to pressurize stemmed from maintenance the night before the flight, the report said. The maintenance crew apparently left a pressurization controller rotary knob out of place and the crew did not catch the mistake during preflight checks the next day, it said.â€
Hey, but it's cost effective to force your experienced mechanics on strike and replace them with guys drinking a beer on the way to work.
wow PTO you've been busy i see....scabbing for NW and moonlighting in EUR. Dont fret though you time is short at NWA now that the company has come groveling back to the table. Guess your so called revelations about how smoothly everything was running isnt quite true but hey, we never trusted a scab anyways.
