Is Starfish already wrapped in paper?

flythewing

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Saw this interesting take on Yahoo boards (a rarity). Is leadership taking a hit now, knowing this ill-fated plan is ALREADY ill-fated?
The interesting point in all this Starfish chatter is that the target, SWA isn''t paying their people in the dark. SWA''s employee conpensation levels are not that far behind UAL in most catagories. It''s the work rules and if they can fix that plus the issues of turnaround times i.e. efficency why bother with a separate entity. Frankly I think that
starfish is a throwaway that will get thrown away when the time is appropraite(sic).
 

BDLDFW

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Is there a "Plan B"? There wasn't during the U merger debacle. Think there's one now?
 

kcabpilot

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On 2/26/2003 10:41:00 PM Segue wrote:

If so, what is "Plan B"....or is there one?
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Jeeze Segue, this is Plan "H". Where have you been? Plan "B" was about two and a half years ago.
 

Segue

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On 2/27/2003 4:07:27 AM kcabpilot wrote:

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On 2/26/2003 10:41:00 PM Segue wrote:

If so, what is "Plan B"....or is there one?
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Jeeze Segue, this is Plan "H". Where have you been? Plan "B" was about two and a half years ago.
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Talkin' about the reorganization plan to exit Chapt. 11.......

If not, I'd be really worried come March when you have to have a plan to get cash flow positive or the creditors pull the plug.
 

kcabpilot

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On 2/27/2003 9:00:46 AM Segue wrote:

Talkin' about the reorganization plan to exit Chapt. 11.......

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Ahhh, so you are referring to "Plan H, subplan (B)"
I believe that would be to bolt the doors at WHQ and not answer the phone.
 

Segue

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On 2/27/2003 12:35:38 PM kcabpilot wrote:

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On 2/27/2003 9:00:46 AM Segue wrote:

Talkin' about the reorganization plan to exit Chapt. 11.......

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Ahhh, so you are referring to "Plan H, subplan (B)"
I believe that would be to bolt the doors at WHQ and not answer the phone.
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By that time the managment folks are long gone, and its just a court appointed executor.
 

kcabpilot

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On 2/27/2003 1:18:43 PM Segue wrote:

By that time the managment folks are long gone, and its just a court appointed executor.
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Who's he gonna "execute"?
 

ual747mech

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On 2/28/2003 12:29:58 PM kcabpilot wrote:

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On 2/27/2003 1:18:43 PM Segue wrote:

By that time the managment folks are long gone, and its just a court appointed executor.
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Who's he gonna "execute"?
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Labor, for not agreeing to the plan. Look at history and you'll know I mean. Management and Labor will either come to an agreement or the court will force concessions by abrogating the CBA. United will either end up like Continental, who's still in business, or Eastern, down the drain, after management and labor not being in the same page.
 

ozstamps

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'Plan A' was Tilton and his lawyers made sure his walk away handshake was a lovely 8 figure sum ... come what may.

'Plan B' was then Starfish, which in three months will be Deadfish.

'Plan C' (??)..... well the guy used to pump gas - don't be so impatient.

Just two things at once looks to be like his speed.