Largest Airline needs one Mechanics Union

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To All the US Airways mechanics, it is time that you and the mechanics at AA join together to control the Union that we will have full say as to who is the TOP guy.
 
We can vote in all of the national Officers, control of our own Locals, attend negotiations, remove officers as we see fit when they don't look out for our class and craft.
 
The IAM still has not given you what you want and now they are working with the TWU to help them to continue to collect dues. We must find a way in which to prevent this from
happening. The IAM is or will tell you it will protect your pension no matter what happens. AA does not fund any pension so I assume that once it is all said and done your pension will be like ours
frozen. You can't loose it. AA will just not fund it. "yes" it will still be funded until a new joint cba is agreed to but in the end it will be frozen. Do you think that this assoc. with the TWU is going to make it better for you? You can read what has happened over at the AA site.
 
You had a vote to remove the IAM with the IBT but that failed and we are glad of that. They lied to you (IBT) and so will the IAM/TWU alliance.
 
You guys signed cards to remove the IAM, due to the lack of representation, So I ask you to think about doing that again, but this time lets all
sign AMFA cards. We then will have the biggest Mechanic controlled union in the industry. The only union in which all the officers will be put in office by a vote not by the good ole
boys club like the IBT/IAM/TWU.
 
If any of you are interested in getting cards to distribute among you fellow workers just ask and we will do our best to assist. We have a data base with all the names.
 
 
Think about this hard before they screw us all.
 
AMFA at the NEW AA in 2014
 
The IAM would never go on strike for their members, their leaders are fine with mediocrity and concessionairy agreements to maintain their cushy positions and structure of the union.

Josh
 
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Once again your lying, the union doesnt go on strike for its members, its members go out on strike for themselves and their union brothers and sisters.
 
We went out on strike for five days against US Air in 92.
 
The IAM has locals out on strike all the time.
 
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That was then and this is now. If given the opportunity the IAM wouldn't strike a carrier they are happy the NMB is delaying and allowing the co to kick the can down the road, this is their justification for no progress in negotiations.

Josh
 
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To All Mechanics at USAirways
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You know what you have with the IAM
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You know what we have here at AA with the TWU
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Go to the AMFA National web site read the constitution
or have them send you one.
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A craft Union is what we need
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This alliance or Association is NOT going to do anything long term for us.
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If you have had enough of the IAM join with us at AA to put a stop to this
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SIGN an AMFA card ASAP and get someone on your crew to do it as well.
 
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Kev3188 said:
A union doesn't go on strike, it's membership does.
Semantics aside, the current structure and leadership would never condone/organize the type of militant job action you love so dearly, they're most interested in doing enough just to keep the dues coming in and protect the union (organization).

Josh
 
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737823 said:
Semantics aside, the current structure and leadership would never condone/organize the type of militant job action you love so dearly, they're most interested in doing enough just to keep the dues coming in and protect the union (organization).

Josh
NO matter if they strike or not that will and should not keep the mechanics from
replacing the iAM at USAirways as well as we at AA replacing the TWU.
 
The membership needs to send a msg to the IAM leadership that they will not stand for any more concessions and that they need to go.
 
AMFA at the NEW AA 2014
 
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700UW said:
Six AMFA write-ins during the IAM/IBT election.
Im not taking sides but amfa does lack the necessary support. Not sure why a few renegades keep pushing amfa when there clearly isnt much support for it.
Besides, the association protects the seniority of the usair mx. Amfa leadership thoroughly embarrassed themself during the amr botched card filing.
If someone considers amfa then wait and see how they handle southwest. Giving up work always dooms a union.
 
700UW said:
Six AMFA write-ins during the IAM/IBT election.
 
True and there were zero write -ins for the plumbers and the electricians unions, so that means that AMFA should not explain how they are different than the industrial union currently on the property.
 
We the mechanics at AA want the TWU gone US guys are looking to replace the IAM since they feel the IAM is failing them, "YES" they voted to keep the IAM only due to the pension. Not because the IAM is any better than the IBT.
 
Switching to AMFA would separate the mechanics from stores/ramp, allow the mechanics to attend negotiations, vote in/out national officers when that needs to happen. Unlike the IAM and TWU which is done by good ole boys club methods or at the convention. 
 
AMFA does not have anything to do with pensions, so if your pension got frozen after all said and done by AA, AMFA would not have anything to do with it. Unlike the IBT.
The IAM starting Jan 1st 2014 is reducing the payments like the IBT did with jimmy H
to stretch out the life time of the pension.
 
I am not saying that AMFA will or is the complete savior, since the airlines have the upper hand now and have had for yrs.
 
I am saying that it would separate our class and craft so that we would have control over our contract, and not have a stock clerk or a fleet clerk having any say in the negotiation of our future contracts.
 
If we are going to change from just the TWu or just the IAM why not make a change that will benefit our class and craft for the future MECHANICS.
 
MAKE A CHANGE THAT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE, VOTE AMFA AT AA 2014
 
Tim Nelson said:
Im not taking sides but amfa does lack the necessary support. Not sure why a few renegades keep pushing amfa when there clearly isnt much support for it.
Besides, the association protects the seniority of the usair mx. Amfa leadership thoroughly embarrassed themself during the amr botched card filing.
If someone considers amfa then wait and see how they handle southwest. Giving up work always dooms a union.
 
Tim
 
Your seniority will be merged by occupational/class&craft per the McCaskill Bond
you wont loose a thing its going to effect both AA and US.
 
As one of the organizer at AA as we collect cards we sent them to Texas to a guy who kept track, checked and filed the in order as the nmb wants when you file. This was done on his time. Not AMFA's. When the IBT filed they have paid organizer just like the IAM and TWU, which have a office and staff in Washington. so all their cards went to DC.
 
After the IBT filed, AA within hrs turned in its list of names that game the AMFA guys just until 4pm to ship the boxes or fly them to DC from Dallas. A feet that could not be accomplished so when the NMB used rule # 3 saying that all valid cards must be at the nmb by 4pm the same day that is why we did not get a vote. For no other reason.
 
It was something that the IBT planned to do since they did not have the valid cards to win just file and kill the amfa card drive at aa. It worked didn't it. That is why they backed out and did not have the NMB conduct a vote. Fraudulent cards with proof by IBT organizers and TWU officials.
 
If you wait the iAM and TWU will force this Assoc. on us and then OUR class and craft will be doomed. The TWU/IAM will screw us all.
 
Lets see what the IAM does for you at US, they have done WHAT so far with your current CBA? Think about that? If they are so good then why did you attempt to remove them? parker has pushed them around and you have what since this all started?
 
Every Union has let work be contracted out the TWU here at AA being the last so does that mean we should keep them?  "HELL NO" they have let the company take away everything else but our jobs. Pension/money/vacation/sickdays/holidays etc....
Every day as I look across the runway I see at least 6 or 7 of USAirways  airbuses at AAR's hanger here in Miami. So the IAM has given away work as well.
 
There must be a airport near that SWA flies into ask a mechanic there what he thinks about AMFA and how it works. Don't listen to the BIAS of some here get the facts for your self. Do your own research. Go to the AMFA site and get a tel # and call the TOP officers. You can't do that with the IAM or the TWU. FACT.  Call Louie Key he will get back with you ask him about AMFA. Not just a IAM or TWU industrial union guy who just wants the dues to keep rollin in.
 
read the AA site about the TWU and see for yourself if the AA people have been screwed, then ask yourself if you want any part of the joint venture with the TWU?
 
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