LCC - what does that really mean?

[phlus2]

So Tempe keeps talking about the "New US" being a low cost carrier. But what does that really mean?

The fares they are charging certainly aren't any different that other carriers, so it really isn't about low fares like SouthWest or AirTran offer. Afterall - as soon as AirTran pulled out of PHL - BOS the fares on US went sky high on that route.

As far as I can tell, all "LCC" provides is an excuse to charge the same fares as everyone else but deliver fewer services and amenities than other carriers offer for the same price.

Are people really that stupid that they fall for this?

I know these are rhetorical questions - but it just doesn't seem to make any sense.

 

[Art at ISP]

LCC in this case stands for Low Class Carrier.

They are have neither low costs, or low fares in general.

Recent developments show that they hold high yield customers with the same contempt they hold their employees.

 

[rsv4ever]

So Tempe keeps talking about the "New US" being a low cost carrier. But what does that really mean?

The fares they are charging certainly aren't any different that other carriers, so it really isn't about low fares like SouthWest or AirTran offer. Afterall - as soon as AirTran pulled out of PHL - BOS the fares on US went sky high on that route.

As far as I can tell, all "LCC" provides is an excuse to charge the same fares as everyone else but deliver fewer services and amenities than other carriers offer for the same price.

Are people really that stupid that they fall for this?

I know these are rhetorical questions - but it just doesn't seem to make any sense.

you are 100% right! we advertise "Low Cost Carrier"--- look on travelocity, US is rarely the cheapest! tempe is SO stupid that they think the rest of the world is stupid! Get A Clue Tempe! :down: :down: :down:

 

[sharktooth]

you are 100% right! we advertise "Low Cost Carrier"--- look on travelocity, US is rarely the cheapest! tempe is SO stupid that they think the rest of the world is stupid! Get A Clue Tempe! :down: :down: :down:

LCC = Loser Coach Class

 

[SS255]

Last Choice Carrier

 

[Pacemaker]

Judge for yourself.

3rd Quarter 2007 unit costs, cents per ASM, per the Bureau of Transportation Statistics:


1. US Airways 15.8

2. Delta 14.0

3. Northwest 13.6

4. Continental 13.5

5. United 13.3

6. American 13.1

7. Alaska 12.0

 

[EMBFA]

To translate for the moron "What Does This Have To Do With The Employees" crowd...

ASM stands for available seat miles. A seat mile is a single seat being flown a single mile. That's how the industry determines cost and revenue. The numbers you see are how much it costs to fly a single seat a single mile at each carrier, taking every expense into account from labor to fuel to marketing to landing fees to office supplies.

As you can see, it costs more to operate US Airways that any of the other carriers listed. All of the other carriers listed consider themselves traditional legacy carriers. US obnoxiously bills itself as a Low Cost Carrier.

How can the highest cost carrier in the industry be a low cost carrier? Anyone?

 

[Travelpro72]

Aaaaaaaaaaand ***CRICKETS***. It IS early out in Tempe so we'll give them a few to conjure up some lame @$$ explanation. Ya know...the be glad you have a job crowd.

 

[Pacemaker]

Aaaaaaaaaaand ***CRICKETS***. It IS early out in Tempe so we'll give them a few to conjure up some lame @$$ explanation. Ya know...the be glad you have a job crowd.

At the end of 2004, just before the merger, the cost data broke down this way:

US Airways: 15.0

America West: 8.6

Southwest: 7.6

It's now 15.8. Southwest is now 9.1. How do you go from holding your own (just) against your largest rival with costs roughly in line to having costs over 50% higher and expect to stay in the PHX/LAS market? Is the incremental revenue from the merger that great? How can we avoid a PSA redux?

 

[Pacemaker]

More sound of crickets chirping....

 

[jimntx]

Puhleeeeaze! You are all just trying to confuse the reader with facts. Now, stop it.

 

[EMBFA]

Loser Can't Compete

 

[US1YFARE]

Loathe Customer Comfort

 

[US1YFARE]

Lacking Commonsensical Capacity

 

[tadjr]

Like...Cwit Complaining. :blink: