Local 514 Q&A

[767 mechanic]

Does anyone have a copy of the local 514 Q&A on the association? Specifically the question about us being able to vote. This has been removed from the 514 website. I wonder why??????????????

 

[MetalMover]

Does anyone have a copy of the local 514 Q&A on the association? Specifically the question about us being able to vote. This has been removed from the 514 website. I wonder why??????????????

http://www.twu.org/blog/tabid/84/vw/1/itemid/462/twuiam-alliance-qa-and-full-agreement.aspx

 

[1AA]

Question 5 is the first big lie on the Association. This is right from the start. How many more lies from the Questionnaire are in the plans? IAM Pension perhaps? Will we really have a choice to join or will it just happen like the Association without a vote? People need to wake up. We are adults and have to make our own decisions, even when it involves union decisions.  

 

[2ndGENAMT]

Does anyone have a copy of the local 514 Q&A on the association? Specifically the question about us being able to vote. This has been removed from the 514 website. I wonder why??????????????

The Q&A that was on the front page of the website was from May 2013 and it was reposted to stem the flow of AMFA cards coming out of Tulsa. Now that the threat to the Dues flow has been temporarily stopped it isn't in the interest of the TWU to show their Lies and Deceit! The Q&A is still there under the Member Center heading.

They also stopped the comments when they got critical of their agenda.

It is beyond my comprehension how anyone would want this organization to represent them.

 

[scorpion 2]

Question 5 is the first big lie on the Association. This is right from the start. How many more lies from the Questionnaire are in the plans? IAM Pension perhaps? Will we really have a choice to join or will it just happen like the Association without a vote? People need to wake up. We are adults and have to make our own decisions, even when it involves union decisions.  

You notice there is no QnA on the pension. Just an agreement on pensions making it a top priority. The only place that says we will have a choice is the fire prevention QnA put out to stop any card drives. Even that one was misleading. Some folks read into it that they would have a choice meaning an individual choice. There will be no individual choice just a collective one made for them by the members as a whole. How many twu no votes will it take to override the iam yes votes just to get an even starting point in the voting process? How many 95 an up seniority members will vote yes because they will feel it's a wash between what they might lose as far as pension rules in their frozen AA plan verses accruing more time in the iam plan? How many old timers will vote yes on a early out if their portion of the trust will be maintained by AA or they can leave earlier and with less penalty under the AA guidelines but only if they take the early out? How many Tulsa non AMT''s will vote yes thinking it will save their jobs? This has the makings of another contract being passed by 50 votes.   

 

[767 mechanic]

Thanks Metal I appreciate it. This needs to stay fresh in peoples mind. This is a perfect example of the lies that the twu and the iam will tell everyone. They were not only telling this lie in Tulsa,but they were also telling this lie in Charlotte. Its hard to believe that we still have people that believe in these dues collection businesses. This is a perfect example of corporate unionism.

 

[1AA]

You notice there is no QnA on the pension. Just an agreement on pensions making it a top priority. The only place that says we will have a choice is the fire prevention QnA put out to stop any card drives. Even that one was misleading. Some folks read into it that they would have a choice meaning an individual choice. There will be no individual choice just a collective one made for them by the members as a whole. How many twu no votes will it take to override the iam yes votes just to get an even starting point in the voting process? How many 95 an up seniority members will vote yes because they will feel it's a wash between what they might lose as far as pension rules in their frozen AA plan verses accruing more time in the iam plan? How many old timers will vote yes on a early out if their portion of the trust will be maintained by AA or they can leave earlier and with less penalty under the AA guidelines but only if they take the early out? How many Tulsa non AMT''s will vote yes thinking it will save their jobs? This has the makings of another contract being passed by 50 votes.

There are so many questions and unresolved situations between the two groups. I see no quick remedy. It may take 18 months to sort this mess. In the meantime enjoy your Memorial Day with your friends and loved ones. It still is a national holiday although the twu and AA don't think so.

 

[WeAAsles]

Happy Memorial Day everyone. A video from the TWU.

http://www.twu.org/Home.aspx

 

[toroshark]

Happy Memorial Day everyone. A video from the TWU.
http://www.twu.org/Home.aspx

Lol! You don't just drink the koolade, you get right on down there and swallow the gravy.

 

[WeAAsles]

Lol! You don't just drink the koolade, you get right on down there and swallow the gravy.

No cyanide in my Kool-Aid or I wouldn't be able to come on here and obviously annoy you.

Ever put gravy on French fries?

 

[OldGuy@AA]

They also stopped the comments when they got critical of their agenda..

I might have been responsible for that.  I posted one too many comments against the IAMNPF.  I guess I ruined it for everyone. haha

 

[Buck]

Its funny now the TWU 514 has posted this at the bottom of there page
 
 

WARNING: Unauthorized access to this Web site by an unauthorized user, or the passing of information to members of management, or their agents, may result in prosecution or legal action under one or more of the following:

• Wire Tap Act, Title 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2520
• The Stored Communications Act, Title 18 U.S.C. §§ 2701-2710
• The Electronic Communications Act of 1986, Title 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510(12)
• The Railway Labor Act, Title 45 U.S.C. § 152

 

[swamt]

WOW!!!  More threats to the members instead of protecting it's members, just freakin pathetic...

 

[767 mechanic]

Its funny now the TWU 514 has posted this at the bottom of there page
 
 
WARNING: Unauthorized access to this Web site by an unauthorized user, or the passing of information to members of management, or their agents, may result in prosecution or legal action under one or more of the following:

• Wire Tap Act, Title 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2520
• The Stored Communications Act, Title 18 U.S.C. §§ 2701-2710
• The Electronic Communications Act of 1986, Title 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510(12)
• The Railway Labor Act, Title 45 U.S.C. § 152

514 and there morons are pathetic. Live in fear and don't speak out about the kremlin our else they will send you to the gallows. This ranks right up there with a casket on a trailer.

 

[2ndGENAMT]

Its funny now the TWU 514 has posted this at the bottom of there page
 
 

WARNING: Unauthorized access to this Web site by an unauthorized user, or the passing of information to members of management, or their agents, may result in prosecution or legal action under one or more of the following:

• Wire Tap Act, Title 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2520
• The Stored Communications Act, Title 18 U.S.C. §§ 2701-2710
• The Electronic Communications Act of 1986, Title 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510(12)
• The Railway Labor Act, Title 45 U.S.C. § 152

I also noticed this and believe it was added recently, some areas are restricted like seniority lists and such but anyone can get on the website. I'm guessing when Doyle (Dankers Handler) was here he probably schooled the 514 boys on Deciet and how to keep the membership in the dark..
They don't seem interested in Feedback!