Looks Like Turbo Props are Coming Back!

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Frontier Airlines Holdings, Inc. Launches Turboprop Service and Seeks to Expand Regional Jet Operation DENVER, Sept. 6 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Frontier Airlines Holdings, Inc. (Nasdaq: FRNT - News), referred to below as the Company, today announced it has entered into an agreement with Bombardier, Inc. to purchase ten 74-seat Q400 turboprop aircraft, with an option to purchase an additional ten aircraft. The Company intends to operate the Q400s under a wholly owned subsidiary with its own operating certificate. Leveraging the strength of Frontier Airlines Denver International Airport (DEN) hub, which provides service to a network of 57 North American cities, the subsidiary intends to use its fleet of Q400s to bring low-cost service to under-served markets in Colorado and the Rocky Mountain region. The subsidiary expects to serve as many as 18 destinations using the new aircraft and to create 300-400 new jobs. Cities to be served have not yet been finalized. A summary of the terms of the aircraft purchase agreement can be found in the Form 8-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) aircraft purchase will enable our service to grow by giving Frontier access to regional leisure and business travel destinations that were previously inaccessible to us but are ideally suited for the economics of the Q400," said Jeff Potter, president and CEO of Frontier Airlines Holdings, Inc. "Our goal is to bring the Frontier experience to under-served markets using a comfortable, state-of-the-art new aircraft, and the Q400 is the perfect aircraft for that mission."
The Company's first Q400 aircraft is scheduled for delivery in May 2007, with subsequent deliveries continuing throughout the balance of the year. The total fleet of 10 aircraft is scheduled to be in service by December 2007. Deliveries of the option aircraft, if exercised, would begin in March 2008. The Frontier brand name will be used for the new service, as it is with the airline's regional service, Frontier JetExpress. The Q400 aircraft will be painted in the Frontier livery with the familiar animals on the tail of every aircraft.
The Q400's sophisticated interior is bright and spacious, featuring wide two-by-two seating with stand-up headroom and easy access to the ample overhead bins on both sides of the center aisle. The aircraft also contains state-of-the-art cabin vibration dampening and noise suppression systems. Despite its jet-like speed, the Q400 is one of the most environmentally-friendly aircraft on the market, offering reduced engine emissions and community noise levels well below industry requirements. Its fuel efficiency will help reduce costs of operation, increasing profit-generating opportunities. The aircraft will be configured with 74 seats with legroom ranging from 31 to 34 inches.
"We welcome Frontier Airlines Holdings, Inc. to the growing list of Bombardier Q400 operators," said Steven Ridolfi, president, Bombardier Regional Aircraft. "This extraordinary regional aircraft has led a resurgence in turboprop travel due to its jet-like speed, quiet comfort, environmental
friendliness, low fuel burn, and the lowest operating costs of any regional aircraft."
"While we did approach our partners at Horizon about the Q400 operation, because they also operate Q400s, we concluded that we could drive this growth strategy more cost-effectively by purchasing and operating the aircraft under the Frontier Airlines Holdings, Inc. umbrella," added Potter. "I am proud to say that Tom Nunn, Frontier's current Vice President of Safety and Security, will be leading this exciting new opportunity for us as President of the new subsidiary. In my opinion, with Tom's tremendous integrity and extensive experience, there is no better person for the job."
In conjunction with Frontier's Q400 growth strategy, the airline is also seeking a partner(s) to operate up to 20 regional jet (RJ) aircraft, to either augment or replace its existing fleet of nine CRJ-700 aircraft, currently operated by Horizon Air as Frontier JetExpress. The expanded RJ fleet will be used to seed mainline service by developing new and smaller markets into mature mainline markets for Frontier and to supplement Frontier's mainline service.
"Our 12-year contract with Horizon Air allows for either party to initiate a review of the terms for changes to be agreed to after three years, and we are currently in discussions with Horizon in this regard," said Paul Tate, senior vice president and CFO of Frontier. "We intend to distribute a request for proposal (RFP) to Horizon Air and other RJ operators within the next 30 days that will enable us to execute our growth strategy."
Senior leadership will host a conference call to discuss the purchase of the Q400s on September 8, 2006, at 90 a.m. Mountain Standard Time. The call is available via the World Wide Web on the airline's Web site at www.frontierairlines.com.
About Frontier Airlines Holdings, Inc.
Frontier Airlines Holdings, Inc. is the parent company of Denver-based Frontier Airlines. Currently in its 13th year of operations, Frontier Airlines is the second largest jet service carrier at Denver International Airport, employing approximately 5,000 aviation professionals. With 54 aircraft and one of the youngest Airbus fleet in North America, Frontier offers 24 channels of DIRECTV® service in every seatback along with 33 inches of legroom in an all coach configuration. In conjunction with Frontier JetExpress operated by Horizon Air, Frontier operates routes linking its Denver hub to 55 destinations including 47 destinations in 29 states spanning the nation from coast to coast, seven cities in Mexico and one city in Canada. Frontier's maintenance and engineering department has received the Federal Aviation Administration's highest award, the Diamond Certificate of Excellence, in recognition of 100 percent of its maintenance and engineering employees completing advanced aircraft maintenance training programs, for seven consecutive years. In July 2006, Frontier ranked as one of the "Top 5 Domestic Airlines" as determined by readers of Travel & Leisure magazine. Frontier provides capacity information and other operating statistics on its Web site, which may be viewed at FrontierAirlines.com.
About Bombardier
A world-leading manufacturer of innovative transportation solutions, from regional aircraft and business jets to rail transportation equipment, Bombardier Inc. is a global corporation headquartered in Canada. Its revenues for the fiscal year ended Jan. 31, 2006, were $14.7 billion US and its shares are traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange (BBD). News and information are available at www.bombardier.com.
Bombardier, Q400 and CRJ-700 are trademarks of Bombardier Inc. or its subsidiaries.
Note to Editors
Images of Frontier Q400 aircraft are available in Bombardier's Multimedia Library at: www.aero.bombardier.com/htmen/F15.jsp
Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:
Statements contained in this press release that are not historical facts may be forward-looking statements as that item is defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties that could result in actual results differing materially from expected results and represent the Company's expectations and beliefs concerning future events based on information available to the Company as of the date of this press release. These risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to: the timing of, and expense associated with, expansion and modification of our operations to incorporate the Q400 aircraft; the certification and other regulatory approvals necessary for Frontier Airlines Holdings' wholly owned subsidiary to operate the Q400 aircraft; general economic factors and behavior of the fare-paying public and its potential impact on operations and selection of markets the Q400 will serve; the impact of labor disputes; the economic environment of potential markets served by regional turboprop aircraft; increased federal scrutiny of regional aircraft operators that may increase operating costs or otherwise adversely affect the Q400 operations; and issues relating to the wholly owned subsidiary's start up operation of the Q400 aircraft fleet. The Company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this press release. Additional information regarding risk factors that may affect future performance at the Company are contained in the Company's SEC filings, including without limitation, the Company's Form 10-K for its fiscal year ended March 31, 2006 and the Company's Form 10-Q for the quarter ended June 30, 2006.

I bet once this starts up, unless US Airways orders PDT more airplanes I can see half our airline going out west!! Parker might as well shut Piedmont down, we won't have anyone left working here!!!
 
Someone had to try this and it may be just the tip of the iceberg.

The financials on the RJ's stink, praticularly the 50 seat jets. If you PRICE the product correctly and undercut you RJ competition by a significant amount then they will be sucessful. Turboprops, especially the Q400 make too much sense in many markets.

Management always overdoes it. Too many Hubs, Too many "turboflops". RJ's were savior of the industry, now they want them out of LGA.


The more things change the more they stay the same, except for finding new ways to beat up labor.
 
WHERE IS THAT PRINCESS K (AKA A.A.)???

HMMMMM, your prediction was the demise of F9!

Yeah right, look who is laughing now PAL!

Lets see whats transpired in my abcense???

1. Frontier is still growing the fleet, 5 new A319's
in 2006.

2. Frontier adds service to MEX & CAN, considers service
to the Carribean and Latin America.

3. Frontier gets the TED gates on A concourse.

4. Frontier is beating anylyst expectation against SWA.

5. Frontier becomes profitable in 1QTR and will post a
profit in the 2ND.

6. Frontier looks at building a hangar in DEN but will
probably assume the lease on CA hangar if they will
fix all the screwed up electrical systems for powering
the work docks.

7. Frontier annouces the addition of 10 Q400 turbo's to
be flown BY Frontier as a WHOLE DIFFERNET ANIMAL. This
will include the employment of 300 to 400 local people.
This should show SWA that F9 isn't going to EVER
let them think that they could EVER become DEN'S
HOMETOWN AIRLINE.

8. Princess, it's good to work at Frontier. Just ask
GRIZWALD and FLIP! :up:
 
WHERE IS THAT PRINCESS K (AKA A.A.)???

HMMMMM, your prediction was the demise of F9!

Yeah right, look who is laughing now PAL!

Lets see whats transpired in my abcense???

1. Frontier is still growing the fleet, 5 new A319's
in 2006.

2. Frontier adds service to MEX & CAN, considers service
to the Carribean and Latin America.

3. Frontier gets the TED gates on A concourse.

4. Frontier is beating anylyst expectation against SWA.

5. Frontier becomes profitable in 1QTR and will post a
profit in the 2ND.

6. Frontier looks at building a hangar in DEN but will
probably assume the lease on CA hangar if they will
fix all the screwed up electrical systems for powering
the work docks.

7. Frontier annouces the addition of 10 Q400 turbo's to
be flown BY Frontier as a WHOLE DIFFERNET ANIMAL. This
will include the employment of 300 to 400 local people.
This should show SWA that F9 isn't going to EVER
let them think that they could EVER become DEN'S
HOMETOWN AIRLINE.

8. Princess, it's good to work at Frontier. Just ask
GRIZWALD and FLIP! :up:

Fish, I used to work at Braniff. They were buying airplanes,flying new routes,expanding like crazy right up until the day they imploded. Frontier is doomed,if it doesn't merge soon. If Southwest doesn't kill them, Virgin America will.
 
Frontier is doomed,if it doesn't merge soon. If Southwest doesn't kill them, Virgin America will.

NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN P.K. We have heard that SWA has some pretty dismal load factors out of DIA. And they certainly have'nt been talking of ANY new expansion at DIA.

Imagine P.K. the revenue that F9 is going to generate on routes within 600 miles of DIA. This is not going to help SWA in Denver at all. SWA is at a total disadvantage when it comes to serving these types of markets. It's going to be a good thing for Frontier. Like I said P.K. we'll be debating the demise of F9 years from now. I'll still be here saying I TOLD YOU SO.

And on the subject of merging: Why do you think F9 decided to do the flying of this commuter airline on it's own? Because F9 knows that they can make it work without any help from anyone else.
 
GO FRONTIER! I actually like the turbos! Dash -8 of Pan AM flights from TTN>BED fondly recalled except why can't they get a bathroom on those things! I had to make sure I emptied the bladder before I climbed the ladder :D
 
GO FRONTIER! I actually like the turbos! Dash -8 of Pan AM flights from TTN>BED fondly recalled except why can't they get a bathroom on those things! I had to make sure I emptied the bladder before I climbed the ladder :D

Dash 8's have lavs!!
 
Fish,

Didn't WN just announce addition of MCI? That could hurt some. I don't see F9 folding over WN by any means, but MCI is actually a pretty big market from DEN...
 
Most likely a BAE Jetstream 31. Seats 19. No lav.

Kev, THAT was it! J-31. You know, I was getting Shuttle America (which used to fly that route) confused with PanAm. I flew both carriers up there and back. Shuttle America used the Dash-8s and PanAm is using the J-31s. Anyone know if Shuttle America is still in business? The last I heard of them they were moving their corp HQs to Fort Wayne, Indiana.
 
Regional Jet Orders Plunge

By Tim Beyers (TMF Mile High)
September 14, 2006

Uh-oh. Just when all seemed to be going well for Motley Fool Stock Advisor pick Embraer (NYSE: ERJ), trade publication Flight International published a story stating that demand for regional jets has "collapsed." (Gulp.)

That's a pretty accurate description. Net deliveries of regional aircraft from Embraer, ATR, and Bombardier dropped to 111 planes during the first half of this year, down from 148 aircraft deliveries during the first half of 2005. Meanwhile, net deliveries of turboprops -- short-range propeller-powered passenger aircraft, an ATR specialty -- soared by 50%.

It gets worse. Flight International's findings reveal that while demand for classic 50-seat regional jets -- once a staple for Canadian rival Bombardier -- cratered, Embraer saw the largest decline in jet orders. (Bombardier actually enjoyed a modest net gain, helped by sales of its larger CRJ 900s.)

Specifically, Embraer's 135, 140, and 170 models drew 89 fewer orders than a year ago. And while the 190 and 195 have proven popular with airlines like JetBlue (Nasdaq: JBLU) and U.S. Airways (NYSE: LCC), 69 first-half orders for the new jets, plus five for the ERJ-145, couldn't overcome the year-over-year shortfall in older models, leaving Embraer down 15 orders from the first six months of 2005.

How worried should investors be? Not very. We've long known that the 190 and 195 would supplant the 170. Meanwhile, executives have shifted their strategy away from sales of 50-seat jets to roomier 70-to-100 seat planes. Doing so has allowed Embraer to be more creative in filling the needs of its airline customers. US Airways, for example, plans to have its newest Embraer jets feature a first-class cabin for short-hop business travelers.

Investors should also pay close attention to Embraer's backlog. In June, it had declined to $10.2 billion from $10.9 billion the year prior. That would be worrying if orders weren't rolling in, but they are -- at home and abroad. In fact, more than 220 E-190 jets are on order as I write. So long as this number remains steady or increases, stockholders should continue to enjoy a powerful tailwind.
 
As for Embraer, the E13x/E14x (50 seats and under) is the most at risk. The E17x/E19x series has much better economics and the seating and cabin interior is comparable to the DC-9 series.
 
Someone had to try this and it may be just the tip of the iceberg.

The financials on the RJ's stink, praticularly the 50 seat jets. If you PRICE the product correctly and undercut you RJ competition by a significant amount then they will be sucessful. Turboprops, especially the Q400 make too much sense in many markets.

Management always overdoes it. Too many Hubs, Too many "turboflops". RJ's were savior of the industry, now they want them out of LGA.
The more things change the more they stay the same, except for finding new ways to beat up labor.
Where I'm at for now is HOT (Hot Springs, AR)and there are quite a few (28 I can see) Embraer 120's. But recently former fly-I RJ's have been showing up and parked here.
All the Embraers are ASA/Comair, and a few of those have been repainted and shipped out.The RJ's seem to be increasing every day here. Looks like the Q400 may be the short haul of the future....