psa328
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What's this I was hearing about LOT coming to MIA in the whereabouts of 2005?
Mia And Star Alliance....
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ringmaruf
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LOT would really love to be able to add service to MIA (and also PHL). But they aren't allowed to start new U.S. service at the moment, since the FAA downgraded Poland to Category 2.
Since UA stopped flying to Buenos Aires and Sao Paulo Star's priority in Miami has become non existent. WHY doesn't UA fly from Miami to LHR? For many years there were two US airlines flying from Miami to London. Pan Am, Delta, Air Florida, Eastern, AA and very briefly UA have all flown it. BA & Virgin fly it for the UK so why can't two USA airlines do it? Since UA bought Pan Am 's Latin routes it became the anchor for Star in miami. If it doesn't have a decent schedule no other alliance member will. I have to believe the market in Miami is large enough for two south america opertaions, it was in the past. IF UA could spare a 777...
Game Set and Match... AA won.
AA commands MIA through its sheer size and marketing relationships (e.g., TAM, LAN, TACA, Iberia, and now Mexicana).
There will be no coming back for UA.
Indeed, it would behoove UA to look carefully at how AA has locked up the market from the US to Latin America. It might learn something about how to protect its leading market position from the US to Japan and beyond.
In Asia, AA is the underdog, but nothing that UA has done really stands in the way of AA expanding there. The only impediments are full liberalization of the US/Japan and US/China air service markets. With a few more 777's, several 7E7's, additional slots at Narita, and route authorities to China, AA has ever opportunity to grow in Asia by bypassing traditional US/Asia hubs and picking off the most premium routes in the US/Asia market. And, so far, UA has done virtually nothing to preempt that point to point attack.
AA commands MIA through its sheer size and marketing relationships (e.g., TAM, LAN, TACA, Iberia, and now Mexicana).
There will be no coming back for UA.
Indeed, it would behoove UA to look carefully at how AA has locked up the market from the US to Latin America. It might learn something about how to protect its leading market position from the US to Japan and beyond.
In Asia, AA is the underdog, but nothing that UA has done really stands in the way of AA expanding there. The only impediments are full liberalization of the US/Japan and US/China air service markets. With a few more 777's, several 7E7's, additional slots at Narita, and route authorities to China, AA has ever opportunity to grow in Asia by bypassing traditional US/Asia hubs and picking off the most premium routes in the US/Asia market. And, so far, UA has done virtually nothing to preempt that point to point attack.
ladevale,
Your right AA won the battle to Brazil, Argentina, and Chile but LHR is different. It is mostly local(Florida) tarffic. Virgin makes it happen with no feed at either end. UA should be able to support a 777 daily to LHR, though this won't work to LGW. Miami has a lerge enough encatchment area for this to work. AA only operates 1 777 daily to LHR from Miami, on some days another flight but that's very limted( AA from ORD to LHR is 4 or 5 777 daily).
Your right AA won the battle to Brazil, Argentina, and Chile but LHR is different. It is mostly local(Florida) tarffic. Virgin makes it happen with no feed at either end. UA should be able to support a 777 daily to LHR, though this won't work to LGW. Miami has a lerge enough encatchment area for this to work. AA only operates 1 777 daily to LHR from Miami, on some days another flight but that's very limted( AA from ORD to LHR is 4 or 5 777 daily).
Before the Reagan era, London was served from Miami by National airlines with no routes of its own to ponts south. South America and Europe were served out of Miami by different interests, Pan Am, Braniff & Eastern. UA should help the Star Alliance by anchoring Miami with LHR. MIA is minor to UA but an important international gateway for other Star airlines.
