Mid Atlantic July Classes

[PropPiedmont]

It looks like 42 Allegheny and 6 Piedmont pilots will be making up the Mid Atlantic July FO classes. Numbers for the August classes should be out on July 6 or 7 (60 openings 30 CA and 30 FO).

 

[USA320Pilot]

With the merging of Allegheny & Piedmont and the reduction of Dash-8 flying, I am glad to see the "wholly owned" Pilots obtain EMB-170 positions, if they desire.

Respectfully,

USA320Pilot

 

[U 737 PILOT]

It looks like 42 Allegheny and 6 Piedmont pilots will be making up the Mid Atlantic July FO classes. Numbers for the August classes should be out on July 6 or 7 (60 openings 30 CA and 30 FO).

Those of us on the APL have not been notified of the August Captain slots. This post indicates a number of wholly owned pilots will fill these capt slots. Are you sure this info is accurate ?

 

[TBONEJ4J]

I understand that the APL has only been exhausted for the FO slots.

The 30 Captain slots available in August will likely be filled by the APL, unless every pilot on the APL declines the position.

 

[pitguy]

USA320Pilot,

It will be nice for you to work there soon. I hope you get a chance. It must be a great place for pilots to work.

 

[PropPiedmont]

Those of us on the APL have not been notified of the August Captain slots. This post indicates a number of wholly owned pilots will fill these capt slots. Are you sure this info is accurate ?

I'm sure all the CA slots will be filled from the APL, but they have been posting all the openings for us (Wholly Owneds) to view. Every week in August a class of 6 CAs and 6 FOs will start (5 classes in Aug). Expect the 30 FO slots to be filled from the CEL.

 

[Rico]

Right now, all the current MDA F/O's (from the APL) have been pay protected, as they could hold a CA position, yet the the severe shortage of FO's requires them to remain in the right seat for now.

All the Classes in July, starting with mine on the 5th, are for FO positions ONLY, to make up for the shortage. After July, the classes will again be split 6CA/6FO for 5 classes in Aug. Now that they have the process worked out you should get notice of your upcoming class date soon.

NO CEL (W/O) pilot can take a CA positon at MDA until all APL pilots have either accepted or declined a CA positon first. Then and only then will the CEL pilots be selected in senority order for CA posiitons.

The easiest way to think about this is to imagine one huge list, with current Mainline pilots in senority order, furloughed mainline pilots in order after them, and then all of the Wholly owned pilots from ALG/PDT/PSA in date of hire order after them...

Since every APL pilot, is above every W/O pilot in the bidding order for any MDA position, those APL pilots still interested in a MDA Capt spot will have first crack. MDA is the "transition" between our two lists (mainline vs. W/O), in which when we come onto "your" property (MDA/Mainlne), we come in behind you.

Oh, and 320 Pilot, thank you for your words.

 

[nycbusdriver]

I imagine all of the MDA captain slots will go to APL pilots for quite a while, and the WO pilots will scarf up the F/O slots. If the EMB170 and EMB 190 have the same type rating, MDA is training for JetBlue EMB 190 deliveries, plain and simple. MDA will see a mass exodus as JetBlue gets their EMB 190's on line nest year ---OR-- there will be a huge change in the way MDA pilots are treated/compensated by USAirways Group. Hopefully it will be the latter, and the long overdue "soft landing" for the MDA pilots will come to fruition.

 

[U 737 PILOT]

MDA will become a huge training ground for Jetblue, but of course USAir's philosophy has always been that training is a fixed cost item, so I doubt we will see any kind of incentives to keep MDA pilots from leaving.

 

[bigbusdrvr]

MDA will become a huge training ground for Jetblue, but of course USAir's philosophy has always been that training is a fixed cost item, so I doubt we will see any kind of incentives to keep MDA pilots from leaving.

Do you have any idea what the working conditions will be at JBLU on the EMB-190??

You do know that you will be on a seperate list than the 320 at JBLU...

Their will be no crossover, with MDA pay at such an excedingly low rate, I can't wait to see the JBLU payrate...

 

[USA320Pilot]

David Neeleman has publicly said the JetBlue EMB-190 Captain will be paid slightly more than a first year A320 First Officer who gets paid about $55,000 per year in year one. Thus, the JetBlue EMB-190 Captain pay should be about the same as the MDA EMB-170 pay rate.

If US Airways obtains 90-seat RJs, that aircraft must be flown on the mainline, not MDA, unless the ALPA MEC, which is controlled by the "hardliners", changes the scope language.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[Light Years]

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[U 737 PILOT]

Do you have any idea what the working conditions will be at JBLU on the EMB-190??

You do know that you will be on a seperate list than the 320 at JBLU...

Their will be no crossover, with MDA pay at such an excedingly low rate, I can't wait to see the JBLU payrate...

Last I heard from a B6 check airmen it will all be one list.

 

[foreright]

What happens when the MDA capt goes down to the CEL? The way I understand LOA 91, the CEL pilot will carry thier longevity for pay purposes. So, if you have a piedmont pilot w/ 18 years they will have a pay rate around $90/hr. The #1 apl pilot will be at $58 an hour. I cant imagine this happening, but I have seen some crazy stuff happening around here.

 

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What happens when the MDA capt goes down to the CEL? The way I understand LOA 91, the CEL pilot will carry thier longevity for pay purposes. So, if you have a piedmont pilot w/ 18 years they will have a pay rate around $90/hr. The #1 apl pilot will be at $58 an hour.

That's the way it's supposed to happen. Although the CEL pilot will be on reserve at base pay.