Midatlantic Takeoff May Be Delayed

[USA320Pilot]

MidAtlantic takeoff may be delayed again

Bond rating, lack of agreement with pilots potential obstacles

FINDLAY TOWNSHIP (Pittsburgh Business Times) - US Airways could further delay the launch of its Pittsburgh-based regional airline, MidAtlantic Airways.

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USA320Pilot

 

[Ramp Rat]

Mr. Davis might want to check his work. The United merger was killed off July of 2001, not 2002.

 

[AOG-N-IT]

MidAtlantic takeoff may be delayed again

Bond rating, lack of agreement with pilots potential obstacles

FINDLAY TOWNSHIP (Pittsburgh Business Times) - US Airways could further delay the launch of its Pittsburgh-based regional airline, MidAtlantic Airways.

Complete Story

Regards,

USA320Pilot

Amazing , NOT !!!

This is nothing new...how many times does this story need to be told...except from yet another source?

The delay of yet another month....two weeks from now it will be delayed until Mid to late June or more. Heck , July or August has a nice ring to it.

Everything you read is about the EMB delays and our credit concerns...the credit concerns I fully understand...but what's the story on the other 85 CRJ's in this proposed 170 Acft fleet? ....are they delayed until Gabriel blows his horn too ???

 

[robbedagain]

what is the point of flying MDA if it keeps getting delayed? is it the aircraft or the pilots or both or what?

 

[AOG-N-IT]

what is the point of flying MDA if it keeps getting delayed? is it the aircraft or the pilots or both or what?

Robbed,

It's both and more !! The EMB's are not getting their certification near as quickly as hoped. This delays training , Proving runs , and what is called IOE for the pilots.

The pilots also have a beef on pay. U is trying to force feed them a payscale for a 70 seat jet....and the planes are 76 seaters. More legal dead dog beating stuff that is self created by the company. (Knowingly Avoidable , I might add)

The F/A Voluntary Furlough victory will also play somewhat of a role in this too.

The IAM and others still do no have all their concerns ironed out over the MAA payscales either.

Basically....other than the fact that a few planes have been painted in U's colors and are sitting in Brazil awaiting certification and delivery , We are not much farther along than we were almost a year ago. However this is eating away out our bottom line , while yielding us nothing to date.

 

[autofixer]

More wonderful manangement from the UAIR team! Great planning! And in typical UAIR management fashion, it will be someone else's fault.

 

[Colby]

More wonderful manangement from the UAIR team! Great planning! And in typical UAIR management fashion, it will be someone else's fault.

Can't you see it now..... Now they'll Probably try to blame the AFA because of the latest WIN !!!!

"We can't start F/A training because we don't know who's gonna be going to MDA " BLAH BLAH BLAH !!!

 

[AOG-N-IT]

Can't you see it now..... Now they'll Probably try to blame the AFA because of the latest WIN !!!!

"We can't start F/A training because we don't know who's gonna be going to MDA " BLAH BLAH BLAH !!!

Colby,

Rest assured that the recent "AFA Victory" will garner at least 20% of the blame for what's taking place. However everyone knows for fact , that is the company had followed the F/A's contract regarding the "Voluntary Furlough " process? We would not being having as much of a protracted issue as we have.

Just trying to get the MAA offerings out to those whom are entitled to them is going to be delayed somewhat. Then we have the issue of those whom will take the Voluntary from the 'Senior Mainline Ranks" that will add to the shake-up slightly.

The only real saving grace in the MAA / Labor debacle is this. Without an FAA certified Aircraft sitting in PIT to fly...it still allows some time and wiggle room for both Labor and Management to iron out the payscale and bid concerns before the aircraft indeed hit the property. This is the only silver lining can find in this entire mess.

 

[HogDriver]

The first EMB-170 arrives in PIT in a few days. There are 89 pilots currently on the seniority list through the Jan 19 class. Two classes of 12 are scheduled from now on each month. Obviously money ratings may affect the continued purchase of jets, but MDA is on track to begin ops in Mar. The pilot pay issue is in arbitration, as are other aspects of the contract. The company can but a stop to any delays there just by doing the right thing from the start.....but we all know that's not how they do business. I think a lot of this story is more in the form of pressure tactics from the company to sway the deals with the PIT airport authority and labor unions in negotiations. Though the credit crisis is real.

 

[WOpropTrash]

What could be more fitting for such a company than total failure? They bet the future of the whole airline on a not yet certified aircraft, from a country, where the only other major industry was dope!

These are the same people who denied their commuters, which they owned, the already flying RJ's, which every other company was purchasing for thir regionals! Later they decided to contract most of the flying out to contract carriers!

Does anyone else see the problem here?