More IAM "scab hunting"

[700UW]

How many times do I have to say the samething to you?

There are no negotiations with the ibt and HP, they have been suspended for several months now.

You cannot force the company to open any contract under the RLA unless you have hit the time frame spelled out in Section 6.

The IAM and the company will negotiate a transition agreement and the IAM will seek improvements, just like in everyother merger we have been through on this property, how many have you been through?

 

[awausairtech]

How many times do I have to say the samething to you?

There are no negotiations with the ibt and HP, they have been suspended for several months now.

You cannot force the company to open any contract under the RLA unless you have hit the time frame spelled out in Section 6.

The IAM and the company will negotiate a transition agreement and the IAM will seek improvements, just like in everyother merger we have been through on this property, how many have you been through?

but 700uw in your own words I QUOTE: And the company all ready said they will negotiate a transition agreement.

Or is this only for a BACK DOOR DEAL MADE WITH THE IAM ONLY?????????

 

[700AW]

Well all the 737s are done in CLT, they are no longer outsourced.

The last three 757s were done in PIT.

And the A330 is outsourced.

Who does your heavy mtc on the 757s, 737s and A320 Family?

Go look up the R# the Stock Clerks have been part of our CBA since 1949.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

Awa,

Really need to educate yourself, B A N K R U P T C Y and we still have better scope language then you.

And to this date you still have brought back in overhaul, so I guess you are using pea shooters in your battle. And what about CO AMTs who gave concessions with no bankruptcy, great ibt battle there I see.

only the three 57's are planned


there are no r# that go back to 1949.. try again and don't let that fact get in your way!!!!


again, why are the fa'S GETTING A NEW CONTRACT AND WE CAN'T

i am educated in BK, is that why hundreds of rampers lost their job and the rest has to pay higher dues... Thanks IAM.....

 

[700UW]

The company has all ready come and said this numerous times.

They are negotiating with AFA, ALPA and completed negotiations with the CWA as your ibt laid down and played dead the HP CSAs and Res Agents never had any input nor did they vote on being placed on the CWA/US CBA with minor transition changes.

More great battles by your ibt, where is the democracy?

700aw, time to reducate you once again.

Article 2 Scope of the Agreement

The Company recognizes in accordance with Certification Case No. R-2146 by the National Mediation Board, dated April 12, 1949, the Union as sole and exclusive bargaining agent for all classes and grades of Mechanical employees of the Company working within the continental United States and it posessions, Maintenance Control Technicians (MOC) Senior Quality Assurance Auditors, Quality Assurance Auditors, Senior Technical Documentation Specialists, Technical Documentation Specialists, Senior Planner, Planners,Lead Ground Communications Technicians, Ground Communications Technicians, Lead Inspectors, Inspectors, Lead Mechanics, Mechanics (all classes), Lead Stock Clerks, Stock Clerks, Lead Utilitymen and Utilitymen

The Certication in 1949 includes stock clerks

 

[awausairtech]

still waiting for the yes and no on my other posts.

 

[fanlube]

Fought hard?

Guess you cant fight at all since Timco and Aeroman are doing your heavy mtc and ETOPS mods.

On the east side we have been through two bankruptcies and still enjoy better scope language then your so called ibt cba you fought hard for.

It took two bankruptcies to bring our cba down to your level.

Scope what a joke, the FACTS are these 700 the COMPANY allowed everything we have now to remain period! The IAM got us nothing because a group of spinless leaders were to afraid to take a stand, so spinless were these leaders they could make no recommendation whatsoever, so no matter how the vote turned out their hands would be clean! Don't come on this board and lie because thats what it is 700 a lie about how the IAM kept our scope in place, remember you were there you guys didn't negotiate! So if you didn't negotiate how did the IAM keep our scope, but the members voted to lose sick pay, vacation,and numerous other benefits not to mention all the work we lost, you can't have it both ways! The IAM can't claim victory for SCOPE and blame the membership for all the the concessions it dosen't work that way. Remember the COMPANY allowed what we have to remain the UNION did nothing! Don't let the facts get in your way!

 

[700UW]

There were negotiations going on for three months, a T/A was never reached.

And yes there were modifications to the final offer several times to keep work in-house.

It all comes down to the membership and how they voted on it.

 

[brown]

Gee the ibt did the samething at Continental Airlines by organizing the scab amts after Lorenzo went to court and had all unions wiped out at CAL and all unions thrown off property.

Pot meet kettle.

Like I said can we talk about the happenings THIS DECADE!!!!

THIS ONE IS FOR YOU 700uw AND ALL THE READERS OF THIS BB HAVE YOU SEEN ONE AWA IBT TECH SAY HE WAS FOR THE IAM???????????

AS TEAMSTERS 104 WE STAND STRONG.............

That is soooo true!!! Never thought about that. We have many ex IAMers wouldn't dare give that scab union a second chance!!!

NO YOUR IAM PAY IS LESS THAT OUR PAY AS AMTS.
look it up at http://www.teamsterslocal104.org/

The IBT Came in after the in house work was farmed out and has brought back work in house every sense!!!!!!

And we will bring back more after the iam is gone.....

I thought USAirways was at the bottom!!! See the IAM is losing a bunch of STOCK clerks at NWA in the latest giveway.

 

[allunionsdeceive]

No you cant force the company to open the contract.

Under the RLA they don't have too.

And the company all ready said they will negotiate a transition agreement.

You are correct that the IBT cannot take the company to court to open the contract but if the IBT wins a election (not saying there is one ) it can and has said ( and the company lawyers Al H has agreed)it can take the company to arbitration and or court to have the IBT contract be the contract to be inforced. The company said that in most cases the IBT and the company would sit down and do what it could to avoid this.

 

[700UW]

Wrong,

Even the ibt has said on their web page the IAM CBA would be the surviving document as single carrier status was granted and the ibt would adminster the IAM CBA.

Just like UAL and NWA where AMFA won and they had to enforce the IAM contract,just like AMFA at WN where they had to enforce the ibt contract and just like the PFAA at NWA had to enforce the ibt contract until the contracts became amendable.

Everett Hemeney did not say that the ibt can force their contract upon US.

 

[brown]

LOOK AT IT THIS WAY NO MATER WHAT THE IAM WANTS TO TEACH YOU ON PLAY OF WORDS.(And I said bottom ranks of pay, not the actual bottom, go back and reread it again.)WE CAN READ IT ALL WITH TRUTH!!!

"O" I see you woke dell lol...
The Teamsters are under negotiations of our contract at this time.
WE AS TEAMSTERS CAN TAKE THE COMPANY TO COURT TO OPEN NEGOTIATIONS.. 🙄
NOW 700 and Dell is this True????? 🙄

THE IAM IS UNDER THE IAM CONTRACT TILL 2009 AND IF THE COMPANY WANTS TO CAN SAY SEE YOU IN 2009 HERE IT IS LOVE IT OR NOT..
NOW 700 and Dell is that True????? B)

Pull them strings boys and give ref. for your answers boys.

PS. If I do have it wrong I will call ANDY To have myself reeducated with the right info.

Take your time on the phone call I got to wash my car!

2009???????? Who voted that in????Oh yeah IAM. Youi know I bet there are a bunh of scared utility, STOCK clerks, etc that would hate to see the IAM leave. What would they do then?????

Fought hard?

Guess you cant fight at all since Timco and Aeroman are doing your heavy mtc and ETOPS mods.

On the east side we have been through two bankruptcies and still enjoy better scope language then your so called ibt cba you fought hard for.

It took two bankruptcies to bring our cba down to your level.

Two bankruptcies and TWO VOTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

According to ibt local 104 negotiations have been suspended and have been for several months.

Your contract is dead in the water and soon you will be under the IAM/US CBA, welcome!

The IAM upon certification will negotiate a transition agreement and make improvements to the current CBA, like what has been done in the several previous mergers that we have been through.

So is Andy too busy loading boxes since you posted wrong information?

Loading boxes or SHIPPING BOXES, same difference!!!!!!!

Because they are both the same union and the company agreed to negotiate a combined contract.

There is no official card drive from the International nor the District.

It does not matter you represent scabs at CO, once a scab, always a scab.

Na Na Na Na you guys did it 25 years ago, so we can do it now!!!!! WHAAAAAA, get over it we are discussing CURRENT HAPPENINGS!!!!!

 

[allunionsdeceive]

Wrong,

Even the ibt has said on their web page the IAM CBA would be the surviving document as single carrier status was granted and the ibt would adminster the IAM CBA.

Just like UAL and NWA where AMFA won and they had to enforce the IAM contract,just like AMFA at WN where they had to enforce the ibt contract and just like the PFAA at NWA had to enforce the ibt contract until the contracts became amendable.

Everett Hemeney did not say that the ibt can force their contract upon US.

Did not say the IBT can force contract on US.


The IBT has told the company that it does not agree with the company or the IAM that the IAM contract is the surviving contract. You are wrong

I 'm not saying what will happen just what is happening and what is being said on the company and IBT sides.

 

[brown]

Fought hard?

Guess you cant fight at all since Timco and Aeroman are doing your heavy mtc and ETOPS mods.

On the east side we have been through two bankruptcies and still enjoy better scope language then your so called ibt cba you fought hard for.

It took two bankruptcies to bring our cba down to your level.

There are 26 posts on this thread and you have mentioned this 6 times already!!!!!!!!! Can you add anything new????anything??????

 

[allunionsdeceive]

2009???????? Who voted that in????Oh yeah IAM. Youi know I bet there are a bunh of scared utility, STOCK clerks, etc that would hate to see the IAM leave. What would they do then?????
Two bankruptcies and TWO VOTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Loading boxes or SHIPPING BOXES, same difference!!!!!!!
Na Na Na Na you guys did it 25 years ago, so we can do it now!!!!! WHAAAAAA, get over it we are discussing CURRENT HAPPENINGS!!!!!

Just leave UPS and everything about UPS out of US. We can't compare the two.

 

[700UW]

Hate to educate you brown.

Mechanics outnumber all the utility and stock clerks added up.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

So when are you gonna stay on topic?