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America's most dangerous jobs
More fishermen died in 2005. Loggers and commercial pilots record lower fatality rates.
By Les Christie, CNNMoney.com staff writer
August 16 2006: 1:50 PM EDT


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- A lobsterman drowned off the New Hampshire coast early in August, after he got entangled in nets and dragged overboard.

A day or two before that a Washington logger was struck in the neck and killed by a log that had worked loose and rolled down a hillside.


The Gloucester fisheman monument records all the fatalities the town's fishermen have suffered over the decades. More than 10,000 names are listed.

In central California on August 5, a crop duster pilot crashed and died.

For many occupations danger is part of the job description. That is made abundantly clear every year when the Bureau of Labor Statistics releases its annual census of fatalities in the workplace.

The report for 2005, released this week, includes data on fatal work-related injuries by industry, gender, age and, especially, by occupation.

The BLS does not count combat deaths in its survey; if it did, the military would undoubtedly have qualified as America's most dangerous job last year.

Fishermen It was another tough year for fishermen in 2005; 48 died, up from 38 the year before. That made it the nation's most dangerous occupation in 2005, with a fatality rate of 118.4 per 100,000 - nearly 30 times higher than the rate of the average worker.

Fishermen go out to the sea in ships in some terrible weather conditions, especially in heavy New England seas and Aleutian Island storms, and a fall overboard often results in death by drowning.

They also work with dangerous power tools such as huge winches and hoists, as well as heavy nets and cages, all of which can turn into lethal missiles on a slippery wet or icy deck in heavy seas.

Loggers This group kept their tragic status as one of the most dangerous occupations by recording 80 deaths, a fatality rate of 90.2 per 100,000. That's an improvement from a year earlier, when there were 85 logging fatalities.

Loggers deal with mammoth weights and irregularly shaped tree trunks that can be very difficult to control. In addition, they may be injured in remote areas far from medical help and succumb to injuries that might not have been fatal.

Flyers Flyers had a safer year with their fatalities dropping nearly 26 percent to 81. That still was enough to qualify the profession as the third most dangerous with a rate of 66.9 per 100,000.

Overall, it was a safer year for American workers; total work related fatalities declined slightly - 5,702 died, about 1 percent fewer than in 2004.

One of the most mundane parts of the work day - driving - proved fatal for more workers than any other: 2,480 died in transportation accidents, more than 43 percent of all fatal workplace occurrences.

Assaults and other violent acts contributed to danger in the workplace; 14 percent of all fatalities were due to these. Fifty policemen and sheriff's patrol officers were murdered on the job and another 81 died in traffic accidents and other incidents. The tragic toll added up to 18.2 fatalities per 100,000 workers.

The most dangerous industry in terms of total killed was construction, where 1,186 workers died. The rate of 11.0 per 100,000, however, trailed the agricultural segment (32.5 per 100,000), which included fishing and logging; mining (25.6 per 100,000); and transportation and warehousing (17.6 per 100,000), where many drivers died in traffic accidents.

Of the 339 construction workers who died, about 32 percent of them suffered fatal falls of a story or more.

The good news is that since the BLS began publishing its census on fatal occupational injuries in 1992, the number of worker's deaths has trended steadily down since 1994 when 6,632 workers died. That's a 14 percent drop, but even that understates how much safer workers are on the job: The number of workers has also grown more than 14 percent since 1994, meaning the fatality rate has dropped by about 30 percent.

Rank Occupation Death rate/100,000 Total deaths
1 Fishers and fishing workers 118.4 48
2 Logging workers 92.9 80
3 Aircraft pilots 66.9 81
4 Structural iron and steel workers 55.6 35
5 Refuse and recyclable material collectors 43.8 32
6 Farmers and ranchers 41.1 341
7 Electrical power line installers/repairers 32.7 36
8 Driver/sales workers and truck drivers 29.1 993
9 Miscelleneous agricultural workers 23.2 176
10 Construction laborers 22.7 339

Here is the actual link for the story:
http://money.cnn.com/2006/08/16/pf/2005_mo...oney_topstories
 
...you're kidding right???!!! You realize this includes guys flying a Cesna and slamming that into the ground. I don't think you can lump that with the commercial airline pilots.
 
America's most dangerous jobs
More fishermen died in 2005. Loggers and commercial pilots record lower fatality rates.
By Les Christie, CNNMoney.com staff writer
August 16 2006: 1:50 PM EDT
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- A lobsterman drowned off the New Hampshire coast early in August, after he got entangled in nets and dragged overboard.

A day or two before that a Washington logger was struck in the neck and killed by a log that had worked loose and rolled down a hillside.


The Gloucester fisheman monument records all the fatalities the town's fishermen have suffered over the decades. More than 10,000 names are listed.

In central California on August 5, a crop duster pilot crashed and died.

For many occupations danger is part of the job description. That is made abundantly clear every year when the Bureau of Labor Statistics releases its annual census of fatalities in the workplace.

The report for 2005, released this week, includes data on fatal work-related injuries by industry, gender, age and, especially, by occupation.

The BLS does not count combat deaths in its survey; if it did, the military would undoubtedly have qualified as America's most dangerous job last year.

Fishermen It was another tough year for fishermen in 2005; 48 died, up from 38 the year before. That made it the nation's most dangerous occupation in 2005, with a fatality rate of 118.4 per 100,000 - nearly 30 times higher than the rate of the average worker.

Fishermen go out to the sea in ships in some terrible weather conditions, especially in heavy New England seas and Aleutian Island storms, and a fall overboard often results in death by drowning.

They also work with dangerous power tools such as huge winches and hoists, as well as heavy nets and cages, all of which can turn into lethal missiles on a slippery wet or icy deck in heavy seas.

Loggers This group kept their tragic status as one of the most dangerous occupations by recording 80 deaths, a fatality rate of 90.2 per 100,000. That's an improvement from a year earlier, when there were 85 logging fatalities.

Loggers deal with mammoth weights and irregularly shaped tree trunks that can be very difficult to control. In addition, they may be injured in remote areas far from medical help and succumb to injuries that might not have been fatal.

Flyers Flyers had a safer year with their fatalities dropping nearly 26 percent to 81. That still was enough to qualify the profession as the third most dangerous with a rate of 66.9 per 100,000.

Overall, it was a safer year for American workers; total work related fatalities declined slightly - 5,702 died, about 1 percent fewer than in 2004.

One of the most mundane parts of the work day - driving - proved fatal for more workers than any other: 2,480 died in transportation accidents, more than 43 percent of all fatal workplace occurrences.

Assaults and other violent acts contributed to danger in the workplace; 14 percent of all fatalities were due to these. Fifty policemen and sheriff's patrol officers were murdered on the job and another 81 died in traffic accidents and other incidents. The tragic toll added up to 18.2 fatalities per 100,000 workers.

The most dangerous industry in terms of total killed was construction, where 1,186 workers died. The rate of 11.0 per 100,000, however, trailed the agricultural segment (32.5 per 100,000), which included fishing and logging; mining (25.6 per 100,000); and transportation and warehousing (17.6 per 100,000), where many drivers died in traffic accidents.

Of the 339 construction workers who died, about 32 percent of them suffered fatal falls of a story or more.

The good news is that since the BLS began publishing its census on fatal occupational injuries in 1992, the number of worker's deaths has trended steadily down since 1994 when 6,632 workers died. That's a 14 percent drop, but even that understates how much safer workers are on the job: The number of workers has also grown more than 14 percent since 1994, meaning the fatality rate has dropped by about 30 percent.

Rank Occupation Death rate/100,000 Total deaths
1 Fishers and fishing workers 118.4 48
2 Logging workers 92.9 80
3 Aircraft pilots 66.9 81
4 Structural iron and steel workers 55.6 35
5 Refuse and recyclable material collectors 43.8 32
6 Farmers and ranchers 41.1 341
7 Electrical power line installers/repairers 32.7 36
8 Driver/sales workers and truck drivers 29.1 993
9 Miscelleneous agricultural workers 23.2 176
10 Construction laborers 22.7 339

Here is the actual link for the story:
http://money.cnn.com/2006/08/16/pf/2005_mo...oney_topstories

Does this statistic apply to ATP rated pilots or just pilots in general?

Without a breakdown of ATP rated pilots and a further breakdown of Commercial ATP rated pilots, one can a$$ume that this statistic includes ALL people with a pilots license.

These statistics would include ‘anyone’ with a pilot’s license.

From teenagers to veterans from all walks of life whether making a living as a pilot, or just holding a cert for fun.

I would venture to gue$$ that Commercial ATP rated pilots ‘in the US’ have a greater threat of dying in the bath tub than on a flight.
I don’t dismiss your attempt at self pontification, as we Mechanics do it as well, but when you bring these ‘statistics’ to the net you should have the wherewithal to back up your hypothesis with a reliable source and supporting data.

Take Care,
B) UT
 
oh....poor pilots....this is bullshit!!
Bull####???

Well, yes and no. This statistic includes all forms of commercial aviation. Those at highest risk are bush pilots who often fly inferior equipment, maintained to questionable standards, in and out of challenging terrain in challenging weather conditions. Pilots who survey powerlines and banner towing also come to mind.

Take those "high risk" elements out of the equation and the picture changes dramatically.

So yes, there is some BS in the claim.

However, most airline pilots gained the experience necessary to arrive at a major commercial airline by doing those very jobs that are "high risk." Not to mention the ones with military backgrounds who flew in war zones and took hostile fire.

So let's not discount the risks involved getting to this point in our careers.
 
Go get me a cup of coffee.


It entertains me that it appears to pi$$ so many of you off. Airline travel is so safe largely due to the competency of the pilots and flight attendants. The responsibility is there nonetheless, and I would argue it carries a much larger potential for disaster than any of the other mentioned careers.
 
It entertains me that it appears to pi$$ so many of you off. Airline travel is so safe largely due to the competency of the pilots and flight attendants. The responsibility is there nonetheless, and I would argue it carries a much larger potential for disaster than any of the other mentioned careers.
I think the airline safety/competency thing should encompass far more people than "pilots and flight attendants."
 
Thank Goodness Management positions aren't that dangerous--I was weighing in the competency factor :lol:
 
Absolutely it does, but I was addressing the pilot/crew issue as it was related to the article above.
As usual, some very biased reporting from an uninformed media person probably about ready for their annual review. Kind of wants to make me go fishing so I won't have to pay off my Bills! Now wouldn't that pi$$ off the Ex!
 
As usual, some very biased reporting from an uninformed media person probably about ready for their annual review. Kind of wants to make me go fishing so I won't have to pay off my Bills! Now wouldn't that pi$$ off the Ex!


I would have thought convenience store clerks and drug dealers would have headed the list.....but if the goverment says it's list is true then it must be so. :rolleyes:
 
Bull####???

Well, yes and no. This statistic includes all forms of commercial aviation. Those at highest risk are bush pilots who often fly inferior equipment, maintained to questionable standards, in and out of challenging terrain in challenging weather conditions. Pilots who survey powerlines and banner towing also come to mind.

Take those "high risk" elements out of the equation and the picture changes dramatically.

So yes, there is some BS in the claim.

However, most airline pilots gained the experience necessary to arrive at a major commercial airline by doing those very jobs that are "high risk." Not to mention the ones with military backgrounds who flew in war zones and took hostile fire.

So let's not discount the risks involved getting to this point in our careers.

I would wager that the most dangerous pilot jobs are Helo pilots. These Guys and Gals have guts and were some of the finest people I have had the pleasure to work and fly with. If you throw in a military scenario I believe it would be as follows:

Most Dangerous job:
1) Foot Soldier (By a wide margin)
2) Helo Pilot (all branches)
3) A10 Pilot
4) Supply Clerk
5) Carrier Fixed Wing Pilot
6) Cook
7) Air Force Fixed Wing Pilot

B) UT