Mt Rushmore - A 5th Head?

[Ms Tree]

I believe the effective tax rate is lower now than at any time in history.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Yep.....taking from those who have earned it and giving it to those who didn't!

Do something besides yell at the radio.

 

[SparrowHawk]

I believe the effective tax rate is lower now than at any time in history.

If it's not ZERO then it's to high. Taxation is theft.

 

[Ms Tree]

Sure.  We can fund the country on wishes and butterflies.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Sure.  We can fund the country on wishes and butterflies.

We funded it just fine from 1791 to 1913.
 
Roll back the budget to the last year Clinton was in office. It's time for we the people to put the federal government on an :"Allowance" Clinton made do with 2 Trillion which seems about right to me.
 
It's OUR Money. Not some political ruling class with an addiction for confiscation of your money.

 

[Ms Tree]

Yes we did.  In 1812 an income tax was proposed to pay for the war but they could not iron out the details till after the war.  The there was the Tax act of 1862, it was repealed in 1872.  Since the taxes collected were based mainly off of import/export goods and taxes on specific items and it was found that the taxes mainly affected those who were less affluent.  They were trying to figure out a way to make the collection more fair.  So they passed the 13th. Govt always has collected taxes. 
 
I do believe we need to find a better and simpler way to collect revenue.

 

[EastUS1]

I do believe we need to find a better and simpler way to collect revenue.

 
In this electronic/instant age, well...here's a completely "crazy" idea: Why not have those that'll pay for things get a direct vote on them? "Hey kids! We-who-know-all want to send F16's to Egypt, and a few billion to Pakistan, just for starter examples, not too mention millions essentially to Hamas. Did we mention bailing out corrupt and properly failing banks/etc for billions? Are you all up for funding that?" 😉 If your immediate response is to laugh and think that nothing of sort could ever even be possible, and that the guv-mint "knows best"...then you're part of the problem.
 
Completely brain-dead, hopelessly insane psychotics like Pelosi note that "we have to pass it to find out what's in it" are allowed, through the votes of hopeless idiots, to have power over Bills. Why not directly give that power to the electorate instead? Is it truly "better" to have just a tiny community of completely-bought-and-paid-for-mindless-whores vote, or the general electorate, arguably a vast pool of admittedly village idiots do so instead? At least the latter have something directly and personally at stake, above and beyond the petty advancement of their own political careers and personal power. Entirely unlike the politicians; some of us village idiots actually care about the USA.

 

[777 fixer]

Wow, all I can say is once again this is why there will never be a fifth president on MT. Rushmore.

 

[southwind]

I believe the effective tax rate is lower now than at any time in history.

Really? Looking at my paycheck, I beg to differ!
 

Do something besides yell at the radio.

OK. How 'bout pointing and laughing at you?
 

If it's not ZERO then it's to high. Taxation is theft.

^^^THIS^^^
 

Sure.  We can fund the country on wishes and butterflies.

Don't have a problem funding my country, just other peoples flat screens and cell phones!

 

[Dog Wonder]

OK. How 'bout pointing and laughing at you?

If you pick your knuckles off the ground, you will fall on your face.

 

[Kev3188]

Rutherford B. Hayes.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

Herman Cain

 

[MCI transplant]

 
I know of the Bay of Pigs Invasion and I know of his actions. It was early in his Presidency and it's my feeling that he learned a valuable lesson that served him well later.
 
Since you brought up History, look at JFK's political views and even thogh he was considered "Liberal" his views on a great many issues were to the right of Ronald Reagan.
 
For example when he cut taxes to spur a sluggish economy he was quoted "A rising tide lifts all boats" which is in basic terms trickle down economics.

Here's one for you.------- Did you know JFK wanted to get reed of the Fed, and put us back on the gold standard? ------ Some say it might have got him killed!

 

[SparrowHawk]

Here's one for you.------- Did you know JFK wanted to get reed of the Fed, and put us back on the gold standard? ------ Some say it might have got him killed!

 
 
Yes, I have a friend who buys into your theory regarding the assignation. What is known is JFK did want to return to the Gold standard in a bigger way. Nixon killed the Gold Standard when he ended the Breton Woods agreement. Then came the US/Saudi petrodollar scheme cooked up by Nixon and Kissenger. You'll also take note that once Breton Wood ended the rapid rise in public debt began as did the expansion of the social safety net..

 

[southwind]

Herman Cain

Yep! I'm sure the country wouldn't be headed in a downward spiral right now!