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Rethinking Legacy Airlines

By Tim Beyers
January 6, 2005

I'm slowly starting to fall in love with the legacy airlines. Though it's certainly true I've made a mockery of US Airways (OTC BB: UAIRQ) and even UAL Corp's (OTC BB: UALAQ) United over the past several months, I believe an opportunity is forming.

Yeah, I know how bad it is for the big guys. Each day more ugly news piles up: Oil prices remain high, consumers continue to demand low fares, and discount carriers such as Motley Fool Stock Advisor pick JetBlue (Nasdaq: JBLU) and Southwest (NYSE: LUV) continue to compete aggressively. But anytime there's doom and gloom in the markets, or in an industry, shrewd investors stand to profit.

Consider Peter Lynch, who in Beating the Street described how as the Dow was cratering, he was buying, often into stocks stuck in troubled, unloved industries. Unsurprisingly, Lynch did well. Why? Because even stocks with staying power can be guilty by association with a poor industry, and that can create bargains.

That's why I'm thrilled by Delta's (NYSE: DAL) price cut announcement. The carrier's most expensive fares are being slashed dramatically, some by more than 50%. US Airways and Northwest (Nasdaq: NWAC) both quickly aped the cuts, but, in doing so, Northwest denounced the move, saying in a statement that it would "immediately adversely and significantly affect the airline industry." Indeed, some estimates say that if all major carriers introduce similar cuts it could cost the industry as much as $3 billion.

If true, investors should expect only the strongest of the remaining legacy carriers to survive. And for clues on that, let's turn our attention to the balance sheets of the major airlines. We're looking for the ones with the greatest tangible net assets -- that is, anything has a material value that could be liquidated to help ride out hard times. We'll exclude the bankrupt carriers since we can't yet predict what their overall capital structure will be. Have a look:

Airline Cash & Investments Debt Tangible Net Worth
American $3,616 $14,383 -$1,545
Continental $1,731 $5,845 -$296
Delta $1,755 $12,766 -$5,759
Northwest $2,541 $8,538 -$3,172
Southwest $1,876 $1,923 $5,504
* Numbers in millions. Data provided by
Yahoo! Finance and Morningstar.

Of the legacy carriers, Continental (NYSE: CAL) appears to me as the most stable. But check out Southwest. Its capital structure is so well-formed that it can easily afford to move into Pittsburgh to muscle in on US Airways' business.

Do the legacy carriers have deep problems? Of course. Do they need to dramatically overhaul their cost structures? Undoubtedly. But one of these carriers will emerge with the staying power to be the dominant global U.S. carrier. Looking at the balance sheets today, I'd put my money on American or Continental. But don't count out United yet. If the carrier makes it out of bankruptcy with much of its debt load eliminated, it, too, could become an attractive buy.


Now if we can only get the FA's onboard of a positive thinking.
 
as I posted on this board on 1/1, the airlines that will survive will control their destiny. Delta did that with the fare changes. AA did it with the changes to its operations which DL is taking. Ironically, US has adopted many of both but is so far down the path to oblivion that it may never get credit for its efforts.

Yes, UA could survive but there are still huge obstacles. Despite all the bravado about what UA has accomplished in bankruptcy they are still there and facing significant obstacles to getting out. Just being realistic.
 
Well gee, thanks World for reminding us for the 729th time. I'm sure our best interests are your motivation. :down:
 
of course, dear. Remember I was one of the very few who believed DL would turn itself around during its hour of crisis; even DL employees didn't believe me. Just waiting for the same turnaround from your company.

Actually, my profile says only about 1/3 of my posts are on this forum. THere are other things in the world besides United.
 
WorldTraveler said:
of course, dear. Remember I was one of the very few who believed DL would turn itself around during its hour of crisis; even DL employees didn't believe me. Just waiting for the same turnaround from your company.

Actually, my profile says only about 1/3 of my posts are on this forum. THere are other things in the world besides United.
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Dude, DAL has a negative net worth of nearly 6 BILLION DOLLARS. That includes debt of (I think) over $20 billion, and an old and aging fleet that needs to be replaced for the most part within the next 10 years, and you think you've 'turned the corner.... LMMFAO!!! You'll have debt servicing costs of nearly $2 BILLION a year alone. that's without paying any of it down. 🙄
 
You may only post on United 1/3 of the time, but you mention United in 90% of your posts.
 
mr. busdriver,
DAL is not in bankruptcy. DL management hasn't seriously miscalculated step after step and pitted one labor and financial group against another. No, I didn't say DL is at all out of the woods or has its problems all solved. But DL is saying they will honor their obligations - including their pensions. I bet the DL employees sure do appreciate it.
 
Ms. Fly,
I've done a little analysis and agree that my fixation with UAL extends to more than just the 249 posts I've made on this forum. So I called my shrink and asked if she knew what the problem is. She agreed with me that I'm not a vindictive person but she is equally mistified how UAL went from first to worst in the industry. UAL is quite a story in an industry that has more than its share of superlatives. Besides, I really do enjoy those long flights to HKG with you so think I'm part of the family.

Can I file my next 6 weeks of dr. bills under your insurance? It really would be to the benefit of many UA employees.

love,
your cracked cousin and customer
 
World, dude,

You're losing it.

Not too much of a surprise, really, for those of us familiar with your "work."

More like USA320Pilot every day ...

( ... or maybe MrFish. How come we attract all the nutsos obsessed with our problems? Good thing UA employees have such big shoulders to bear all the drivel out there from our well-wishers.)
 
Hi Bear and Fly:

Isn't tomorrow (January 7th) the day UAL asks the judge to gut our contract? What's the word?
I hope it's not "CHAOS". (Yikes...clenched fist in mouth)...
 
Bear96 said:
World, dude,

You're losing it.

Not too much of a surprise, really, for those of us familiar with your "work."

More like USA320Pilot every day ...

( ... or maybe MrFish. How come we attract all the nutsos obsessed with our problems? Good thing UA employees have such big shoulders to bear all the drivel out there from our well-wishers.)
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It's because we're so good....as individuals that is....collectively, we're a 'Yard Sale'....Fish still smells :up:
 

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