Nwa On Strike

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Skymess

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They need support. How about showing up with some food and drinks and walking the line with them today.

NWA Mechanics Strike
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(WCCO) After failed negotiations, Northwest mechanics are walking the picket line while the airline pledged to keep flying.

Mechanics from the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association began striking at 11:01 p.m. central time Friday. Northwest was seeking $1.1 billion worth of annual labor savings and wanted $176 million from its mechanics.

The mechanics said the wages would be comparable to the 1980's. Both sides never met face-to-face Friday.

The airline lined up 1,200 temporary workers to replace the strikers. They also shifted Northwest mechanics' schedules so most workers would not be on the clock when the strike began.

As the many workers clocked out at 8 p.m., their security badges were confiscated and they were escorted away by security.

The mechanics began an informational strike in the middle of the evening, which turned into a full strike as the deadline passed without a deal.

The airline said it gave mechanics its best offer Thursday night.

Representatives for the mechanics' union spent Thursday night and some of Friday analyzing the offer, but in the end they said they were too far apart.

The airline said its offer consisted of $176 million in concessions from the union. It also had a 25 percent decrease in pay and eliminated all the cleaner jobs.

Northwest wanted to outsource more labor, but the mechanics union said it wanted to protect all jobs.

Despite the strike, Northwest pledged to keep its planes in the air. Mechanics, however, expected flights to be canceled and delayed.

In a note to investors, Bear Stearns analyst David Strine said he believes the airline's strike plan will work.

"We think management can pull it off," he wrote in the note.

He said Northwest could survive next year if a few things work out in its favor: The airline will either make a deal with mechanics or replace them. Flight attendants would probably make a deal then, too, he wrote. And if Congress grants pension law changes and Northwest can refinance some of its debt, it could halt its cash burn, Strine wrote.

But if Northwest doesn't get pension relief or fails to refinance its debt, he predicted its financial situation would "deteriorate substantially" in 2007.
Shares of Northwest's stock surged nearly 10 percent Thursday, on word a Connecticut investor bought six percent of the airline. An analyst also upgraded the airline on Thursday as well. The stock dipped back down 10 percent by the closing bell Friday.

Northwest Airlines is the nation's fourth-largest airline.
 
Kev3188 said:
Hopeful,

Can you fix the link? Thanks.
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Check your messages. I deleted the link because the moderator warned of "outing."
 
Skymess said:
"They need support. How about showing up with some food and drinks and walking the line with them today."

Pardon me, but since you're feeling so sympathtic and helpful, would you mind stopping by my house and bring some of that food, and maybe help with some of my bills? It seems that after my 26 year carreer, I've now been on the street for the past 2 years, thanks in part, to what some would call an internal "union dispute". (Can you say staple, then......... furlough)?

Seems hypocritical to be running off and show support for other union members, when your very own "brothers and sisters" could need some of your help and support during a very difficult time, but then again, it might only remind you of the very un-union like activities that took place in your very own backyard.

Gimme a break......
 
F/A TWAA said:
Skymess said:
"They need support. How about showing up with some food and drinks and walking the line with them today."

Pardon me, but since you're feeling so sympathtic and helpful, would you mind stopping by my house and bring some of that food, and maybe help with some of my bills? It seems that after my 26 year carreer, I've now been on the street for the past 2 years, thanks in part, to what some would call an internal "union dispute". (Can you say staple, then......... furlough)?

Seems hypocritical to be running off and show support for other union members, when your very own "brothers and sisters" could need some of your help and support during a very difficult time, but then again, it might only remind you of the very un-union like activities that took place in your very own backyard.

Gimme a break......
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NWA mechanics are on strike. Your company went out of business.
 
aafsc said:
NWA mechanics are on strike. Your company went out of business.
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And there you have it.

I guess that will continue to be the number 1 justification for the very "ununion-like" actions that has put thousands of hard working fellow union members on the street.

Just because you keep repeating the lies, dosen't make it true.
 
F/A TWAA said:
And there you have it.

I guess that will continue to be the number 1 justification for the very "ununion-like" actions that has put thousands of hard working fellow union members on the street.

Just because you keep repeating the lies, dosen't mean it makes it the truth.
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And this just shows your greed and the fact that you would have no problem taking someone elses job. Given the circumstances since 9/11, it was a given fact that AA was going to lay off thousands. If by some chance the TWAers would have been able to keep their full union seniority at AA, those thousands on the street would have been AA employees with years of service while you with your "26 years" would be flying DFW-HNL or JFK-NRT. The career expectations for nAAtives were 1000 times better than for those of the TWAers. You were NOT entitled to our jobs. Period!
 
I am impressed that the NW AMFA members behaved the way a UNION should.
Standing up for the membership. Protecting THEIR interest.

Not playing CFO of the airline.
They are not going to let them intimidate and terrify the members into accepting something bad!
Good for them.
If they didn't stand up to them, they would keep coming back for more.

Unlike other UNIONS on the AA property.
 
aafsc said:
And this just shows your greed and the fact that you would have no problem taking someone elses job. Given the circumstances since 9/11, it was a given fact that AA was going to lay off thousands. If by some chance the TWAers would have been able to keep their full union seniority at AA, those thousands on the street would have been AA employees with years of service while you with your "26 years" would be flying DFW-HNL or JFK-NRT. The career expectations for nAAtives were 1000 times better than for those of the TWAers. You were NOT entitled to our jobs. Period!
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Curious it was only the TWA F/A who were out on the streets?
 
buhbye said:
Curious it was only the TWA F/A who were out on the streets?
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<_< No, when aa aquired TWA there were Approx. 22,000 TWA employees! 5 years later there maybe 3,000!!!! ( prove me wrong aa!) The TWA empolyees have acted as a buffer for the now active nAAtives in hard times!! We have gone out to the street in their place! If aa had not aquired TWA, the same people that cry the loudest, about us stealing their jobs, would be out in the street themselfs!!!!! Talk about hypocrisy!!!!!!
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MCI transplant said:
<_< No, when aa aquired TWA there were Approx. 22,000 TWA employees! 5 years later there maybe 3,000!!!! ( prove me wrong aa!) The TWA empolyees have acted as a buffer for the now active nAAtives in hard times!! We have gone out to the street in their place! If aa had not aquired TWA, the same people that cry the loudest, about us stealing their jobs, would be out in the street themselfs!!!!! Talk about hypocrisy!!!!!!
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True.

I think in the blaming game should be Cooper & the IAM. They sold yall out! What does she care?
She still has a job with the IAM!
 
aafsc said:
"And this just shows your greed and the fact that you would have no problem taking someone elses job."...................You were NOT entitled to our jobs. Period!
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I'm greedy? Is that why I, along with thousands AND thousands of others (not only F/A's) are out of a job?

Greed. Yea right. We were not entitled to your jobs, but I guess you were entitled to (and got) ours.

Look in the mirror and you'll see what a greedy person looks like.
 
buhbye said:
Curious it was only the TWA F/A who were out on the streets?
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Because the TWU went to binding arbitration resulting in the Kasher ruling, APA dovetailed about 40% of the TWA pilots, AA decided to keep a lot of the TWA managers, and there were enough spots for some TWA agents, who are non-union.
 
F/A TWAA said:
I'm greedy? Is that why I, along with thousands AND thousands of others (not only F/A's) are out of a job?

Greed. Yea right. We were not entitled to your jobs, but I guess you were entitled to (and got) ours.

Look in the mirror and you'll see what a greedy person looks like.
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What hub did AA drastically cut? STL. They did not cut DFW, ORD, MIA. or SJU. Since STL (TWA's hub) was reduced by about 70% it is only right that ex-TWA employees in total loose the corresponding amount of jobs (which is about 70%). But obviously you feel that you should have been able to go to DFW, ORD, MIA, etc. and throw AAers on the street. In my group, the TWU, we had about 150 AAers in STL before the transaction. Today, there is not one TWU represented origional AA employee in STL. They all got kicked out by the TWAers.
 
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