Has the migration to Sabre operations on the west side been completed? if so were there any issues?
operations to Sabre
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as the prop turns
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HP has never used Sabre. That is what USAir lost for this piece of crap system we are using now.
Tim Nelson
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nobody fly on may 15th. thats when the company plans the single certificate and also plans to go sabre. you thought res was bad wait til this goes down. the so called training given to the west teamleads was a book and time sequence of events and commands to be used for entries. no actual flight sim was done and the trainers had no clue on what they were training. flts will be gate returning like you wouldnt believe and it will be a nightmare out west. Personally there was a grievance filed out west to stop this from going forward due to the simple fact the the east CLP agents will be doing former west work by planning our flts and performing the W/B on them. and as you have guessed the IAM has done nothing. It was filed under the expediate process in our contract to be selected with an arbitrator within 3 days of filing and heard within 30 days and ruled within 30 days. No arbitrator has been picked and its been almost 3 weeks since its been filed.
Weight&Balance
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Good luck stopping CLP from taking you flights over. They can't handle the flights they have now. East flights sit on the runway waiting and waiting for W&B and CLP sit in their little kingdom blaming the station call the station personel names. Thinking they are superior than the other ops people. Half of them don't even know what the inside of the cargo bins look like. They don't communicate with the dispatcher.CLP system is a joke. GOOD LUCK NevadaHP from one ole Loadmaster to another.
h34r:
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Weeks of training going on in Dispatch and also heard some delay beyond May 1. CLP has been closing flights due to delays at station with inputs from anyone that can help. They dont want to do it but it was so bad sometimes USAir flights were directed to alternate runways for take-off.Good luck stopping CLP from taking you flights over. They can't handle the flights they have now. East flights sit on the runway waiting and waiting for W&B and CLP sit in their little kingdom blaming the station call the station personel names. Thinking they are superior than the other ops people. Half of them don't even know what the inside of the cargo bins look like. They don't communicate with the dispatcher.CLP system is a joke. GOOD LUCK NevadaHP from one ole Loadmaster to another.
If flights are waiting for their numbers is it generally one of two thing happening (or not). 1) Waiting for the ramp to enter their cargo numbers. or 2) Most likely Cust Svc trying to close out the flight from their end and having a heck of a time with it due to Shares and its uselessness.
Weight&Balance
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The is the genric answer from CLP...blame the station.Monitor the flights and maybe the delays will minimize. CLP = Causes Lots of Problems
h34r:
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I wouldnt call it the generic response. Dispatch has been the middleman in a lot of it. CLP cant just make up pax and cargo numbers. We were getting numbers from the cockpit and forwarding. CLP did not want to do anyone else's job.The is the genric answer from CLP...blame the station.Monitor the flights and maybe the delays will minimize. CLP = Causes Lots of Problems
It's "supposed" to happen on May 15th. Teamleads in PHX will be working flights from the jetway on new kiosks with native Sabre on it. I say "native Sabre" because they're developing a keypad in QIK (I think its Ctrl+F7 right now, but it doesn't work yet). They'll be entering everything in DECS.
And CLP is 100% correct, they can't do their job without the station doing theirs. 99 times out of 100 the numbers haven't been sent because either the ramp or the gate haven't finalized their count. Give 'em all the crap you want, but the CLP guys I've talked to all know what they're doing.
I agree that the teamleads will have no idea what they're doing...the training is pretty sub-par. However, rumor is East will be sending people out to help like West did for the RES cutover.
And CLP is 100% correct, they can't do their job without the station doing theirs. 99 times out of 100 the numbers haven't been sent because either the ramp or the gate haven't finalized their count. Give 'em all the crap you want, but the CLP guys I've talked to all know what they're doing.
I agree that the teamleads will have no idea what they're doing...the training is pretty sub-par. However, rumor is East will be sending people out to help like West did for the RES cutover.
Not ALL CLP agents know what is going on,,,,, Most YES, but not all. Maybe someone has the answer, but how many new CLP agents have they hired in the last few months? Have worked with a few that were obviously in Training.
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