SFO incident

[Dont call me Shirley]

It looks like quite a few US departures have been cancelled; I assume many inbound diversions.

Looks like tonight's redyeyes to the East are still on.


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Of course, there was a big impact on SFO and the travel plans of many people were disrupted. Sadly, some took to complaining on social media, including a pathetic woman who tweeted "Thanks a lot Korean Air (sic) for crashing an airplane and getting me stuck in SF!" Someone else complained to a reporter about a cancelled Southwest flight and bemoaned having to take BART over to OAK to catch a flight.
Very sad how some people are so self centered.

 

[Harry Callahan]

This is sad indeed. My thoughts & prayers for all involved including those whose travel plans are delayed.

Harry

 

[BuffaloJoe]

Sad news for sure.

I noticed US canceled 3 flights from PHL and 3 from CLT. Why couldn't they operate into San Jose/Oakland. Also 659 was over Nevada an went down to PHX. A lot easier to get the passengers to SFO from 12/30 miles away. San Jose is easy to commute to SFO as well as OAK. Don't make sense in the diversions and cancellations when there were alternates available. Especially on how load factors are.

 

[WorldTraveler]

there were reports that SJC had run out of gates and planes were stopped on the taxiways waiting to unload. SJC and OAK simply can't handle the overflow from SFO - and every other airline probably would have preferred to divert to the Bay Area as well. Several int'l flights diverted to OAK or SJC - supposedly LH's 380 went to OAK. A number of others went to SEA and some to LAX.

 

[tadjr]

Also remember it's a Saturday night schedule and the staffing on the ground in SJC and OAK would have to be taken into consideration. It wouldn't make sense to land 3 or 4 planes into one of these cities with no staff to handle them, unless it were a last minute diversion. One CLT-SFO flight diverted into SMF. They had originally cancelled the 8pm from CLT and PHX to SFO, but reinstated them when the airport was reopened. I think it was about 4 flights they canx (not including the diversions that were already enroute at the time).

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

supposedly LH's 380 went to OAK. A number of others went to SEA and some to LAX.

Indeed it did. Spent some time there before going to SFO after a Bay Area tour:

http://flightaware.c...2243Z/KOAK/KSFO

Cathay and KLM 744s went to OAK as well.

SK diverted to SMF, along with SQ and AC.

http://flightaware.c...light/smf/KSFO/

In a news conference, an SFO spokesperson noted that Star Alliance carriers at SFO were providing assistance to Asiana. Probably mostly by UA, given the size of its operation there.

US cancelations at SFO from flightaware:

http://flightaware.com/live/fleet/AWE/cancelled
Cancelled US Airways "Cactus" (AWE) Flights Ident Type Origin Destination Scheduled
Departure Time AWE1856 B752 Orlando Intl (KMCO) Charlotte/Douglas Intl (KCLT) Sat 08:45AM EDT AWE2164 E190 Reagan National (KDCA) LaGuardia (KLGA) Sat 09:00AM EDT AWE1509 A321 Charlotte/Douglas Intl (KCLT) Phoenix Sky Harbor Intl (KPHX) Sat 11:30AM EDT AWE965 A321 Philadelphia Intl (KPHL) San Francisco Intl (KSFO) Sat 02:00PM EDT AWE46 A320 San Francisco Intl (KSFO) Phoenix Sky Harbor Intl (KPHX) Sat 11:45AM PDT AWE711 A321 Philadelphia Intl (KPHL) San Francisco Intl (KSFO) Sat 04:00PM EDT AWE9337 A321 San Francisco Intl (KSFO) Charlotte/Douglas Intl (KCLT) Sat 01:00PM PDT AWE468 A321 San Francisco Intl (KSFO) Charlotte/Douglas Intl (KCLT) Sat 01:00PM PDT AWE469 A321 Charlotte/Douglas Intl (KCLT) San Francisco Intl (KSFO) Sat 04:40PM EDT AWE651 A320 San Francisco Intl (KSFO) Philadelphia Intl (KPHL) Sat 01:45PM PDT AWE1448 A321 Phoenix Sky Harbor Intl (KPHX) Charlotte/Douglas Intl (KCLT) Sat 01:45PM MST AWE705 A321 Charlotte/Douglas Intl (KCLT) San Francisco Intl (KSFO) Sat 06:13PM EDT AWE277 A320 San Francisco Intl (KSFO) Phoenix Sky Harbor Intl (KPHX) Sat 03:50PM PDT AWE9361 A320 San Francisco Intl (KSFO) Phoenix Sky Harbor Intl (KPHX) Sat 03:50PM PDT AWE409 A320 Phoenix Sky Harbor Intl (KPHX) San Francisco Intl (KSFO) Sat 04:50PM MST AWE408 A320 San Francisco Intl (KSFO) Phoenix Sky Harbor Intl (KPHX) Sat 05:10PM PDT AWE11 A321 San Francisco Intl (KSFO) Phoenix Sky Harbor Intl (KPHX) Sat 08:55PM PDT AWE1492 A321 San Francisco Intl (KSFO) Philadelphia Intl (KPHL) Sat 10:10PM PDT AWE1468 A321 San Francisco Intl (KSFO) Charlotte/Douglas Intl (KCLT) Sat 10:15PM PDT AWE462 A321 San Francisco Intl (KSFO) Charlotte/Douglas Intl (KCLT) Sun 12:20AM PDT
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[Dont call me Shirley]

Still several cancelations at SFO today ; some east coast departures making fuel stops, due to runway configuration.

 

[xUT]

Sad news for sure.

I noticed US canceled 3 flights from PHL and 3 from CLT. Why couldn't they operate into San Jose/Oakland. Also 659 was over Nevada an went down to PHX. A lot easier to get the passengers to SFO from 12/30 miles away. San Jose is easy to commute to SFO as well as OAK. Don't make sense in the diversions and cancellations when there were alternates available. Especially on how load factors are.

Capacity, logistics and a bunch of other factors.
Given the situation, IMHO it was handled very well.
SFO will be hampered for at least another few days or weeks as 28L and 28R will be closed for investigation (not to mention debris).
Time for patience, PAX included.
B) xUT

 

[tadjr]

Two flights today operated into OAK instead of SFO. They also operated extra sections (continuations of these diverted flights) to PHX. Both were already booked full from OAK. I would expect this to continue if the ATC delays continue into SFO and the staffing in OAK permits it. Smart move instead of a straight out cancellation now that they have some time to preplan.

 

[cltrat]

flt 705 left here tonight headed to San Jose

 

[FWAAA]

Capacity, logistics and a bunch of other factors.
Given the situation, IMHO it was handled very well.
SFO will be hampered for at least another few days or weeks as 28L and 28R will be closed for investigation (not to mention debris).
Time for patience, PAX included.
B) xUT

28 Right/10 Left reopened this afternoon, so SFO should be almost back to normal in time for Monday morning.

 

[xUT]

28 Right/10 Left reopened this afternoon, so SFO should be almost back to normal in time for Monday morning.

It would appear that 28R would be closed because of the debris and investigation of 28L for awhile.
Don't know how 28R could be open unless AC taxi 28R to the end and do a 360 degree turn. It will be interesting see how they manage this.
JMHO,
B) xUT

--edited by me ---
Of course 28R could be used for landing only.

 

[autofixer]

Sully is on Bloomberg West speculating on the Asiana crash. He looks 10 years younger since he retired.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Sully is on Bloomberg West speculating on the Asiana crash. He looks 10 years younger since he retired.

And he probably feels 20 years younger now, too.

 

[Harry Callahan]

Fixer & Busdriver retirement is good for you . No doubt in my mind.

Harry