The Day After The Judge Ruled

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Today we had a significant spike in email and emotional comments, which I believe is largely due fear and uncertainty because our job security is not in our own hands. I am not living in a “fish bowlâ€￾, but let’s put things into perspective. Here are some points to consider:

- US Airways has negotiated new labor agreements that will save the company $700 million per year. The pilot’s provided $300 million, the AFA $94 million (plus $63 million for pension and retiree health care changes), the CWA $137 million, and the TWU $6 million per year.

- Non-union workers have contributed more than $200 million in cost cuts.

- The court terminated pensions covering machinists and flight attendants, which will save the company about $1 billion during the next four years.

- The IAM and the company reached a TA for 35 Maintenance Training Specialists, which is the 7 new contract. See Story

- The company won court permission to throw out the IAM 3 contracts if they do not agree to concessions by January 21.

US Airways is seeking another $300 million in cost savings from the IAM. The IAM will be providing its members a detailed analysis of the proposals, but among the key provisions are:

IAM 142- Mechanics & Related (Utility Cleaners) workgroup:

- Pay rates for mechanics would be significantly better than the current pay that reflects a 21 percent temporary cut

- Heavy maintenance on Airbus narrowbody aircraft will be brought in-house and certain Boeing 737 work will continue to be done in-house. Widebody heavy maintenance and other work to be specified, including some Boeing 737 inspection activity, will be done using outside maintenance vendors

- Base maintenance will continue to be performed in Charlotte, N.C., and Pittsburgh

- Line maintenance positions will increase with anticipated schedule changes in 2005

- Utility classification and certain utility positions will be preserved at base maintenance facilities only, with other utility and cleaning services to be outsourced

- IAM employees displaced by outsourcing will be offered existing and future fleet service positions

IAM-141 - Fleet Service workgroup:

- Pay rates for fleet service employees at hubs and major stations would be significantly better than the current pay that reflects a 21 percent temporary pay reduction

- Most existing fleet service work will be preserved

- A majority of scope provisions will remain unchanged except the right to outsource fleet work at the smaller cities and a second-tier pay scale for medium-sized cities

- Continuation in the pre-existing IAM multi-employer national pension plan at unreduced levels

When evaluating the proposal, IAM members must look at two points: having no job or having job while looking for another job. Another key point is that the company’s proposal addresses two large issues: reducing the 21 percent “imposedâ€￾ pay cut to a much more manageable number and preserving a majority of the 8,500 IAM positions. Judge Mitchell acknowledged the machinists are being asked to "cut their own throats." But he said the union did not prove the cuts were unnecessary while the carrier demonstrated the savings were vital. "Which is worse, half the mechanics losing their jobs or all of the mechanics losing their jobs?" Mitchell asked. However, according to today’s Pittsburgh Tribune-Review several rank and file mechanics at the Pittsburgh hangar said the offer seemed to provide a glimmer of hope, but added they would reserve final judgment until they get more information.

According to today’s Charlotte Observer, Judge Mitchell’s ruling “handed US Airways a big victory in its fight to survive, giving the airline the authority to unilaterally cut the pay and benefits of its largest union and slash thousands of jobsâ€￾, as well as “clear the way for the company to seek new investors.

Why? US Airways agreed to keep the status quo on pay and work rules for the IAM until Jan. 21, when one of two things will take place: Either the union membership will ratify a new contract with the company, or the union will vote down the company's latest offer, then have those cutbacks forced on them anyway.

The company is moving forward and Bruce Lakefield told reporters following the hearing "the judge accurately described what we're going through" and pledged to move forward with restructuring. The airline has said it may need to find more savings and is trying to attract an equity investment of $250 million. The good new…the company still intends to successfully restructure into an LCC with competitive cost structure, which is the only way any employee will obtain true job security.

What bothers me about some of our posts is that a reader looks at a comment in the newspaper and they believe the comment is fact. People like Vaughn Cordle and Mike Boyd do not clearly look at the numbers, SEC filings, or know what is happening inside the company. Cordle is a United pilot, is clearly uninformed, and has a special interest. When reading a periodical the best sources are key analysts like Merrill’s Michael Linnenberg, S&P’s Phil Baggaley, and Lehman’s Gary Chase. The only news reporters who truly have a handle on the inside information are Susan Carey of the Wall Street Journal, Michelline Maynard of the New York Times, Lynn Marek of Bloomberg News, and Dan Roberts of the Financial Times. I do not listen to anybody else because they are not informed, but the people listed above can directly speak with every industry CEO, if desired.

According to Dan Roberts of the Financial Times, many rivals were hoping that United and US Airways would go under permanently, reducing capacity and strengthening the position of those that remain. Instead, the two weakest players appear to be successfully navigating through the US bankruptcy system, despite several remaining hurdles. US Airways led the way on Thursday when a bankruptcy judge allowed it terminate pension plans and scrap existing pay agreements in its bid to save nearly $1bn in costs by mid-January. It still faces an uphill battle though and needs to persuade the US government's Air Transportation Stabilization Board to continue allowing it to use their cash as collateral at a crunch meeting on January 14.

According to the New York Times US Airways received approval to cancel contracts with its mechanics and baggage handlers and United Airlines won pay cuts it had sought for a similar group. The rulings were victories for both airlines, which are struggling for survival, but defeats for their unions. Judge Mitchell described his decision as a "close call," but said it would give US Airways the best chance to survive. The union said talks continued yesterday, and workers vowed not to take aggressive action or strike. The rulings should provide both airlines a little more breathing room and, in the case of US Airways, permit it to stave off liquidation for now. "It definitely increases the chances of this airline surviving," Terry Trippler, an air travel consultant in Minneapolis, said. There is no bargaining after this," said Peter Capelli, a management professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School of Business who has studied airline labor relations. "The company is going to get to do what it wants to do, whether the union agrees or not," the Times reported.

The next two hurdles that Roberts indicated must occur by January 14 are:

- US Airways needs to find $100 million in cash or cost savings, or it risks upsetting a key deal with GE, which controls most of the airline's fleet and is very favorable to the airline.

- US Airways must win an extension to continue using ATSB guaranteed funds.

With all labor pieces now in place, one way or another, I bet US Airways will obtain conditional approval on both financing deals above, provided the three IAM units ratify new agreements, which will place even greater pressure on the union. In addition, the financial community still supports the business plan with two new recent financing agreements: Embraer and Comair providing RJ financing and Citigroup agreed to replace BOA as one of the loan guarantee “at riskâ€￾ financiers. The key here is that members of the financial community, along with the very important GE deal, still support the company, which is essential.

A hearing has been scheduled for January 13, next Thursday, on US Airways next financing matters and interestingly the company has not filed any motion or exhibit. I find this interesting, but the likely reason is the company required IAM participation, one way or the other, before it could comply with the GE bridge financing terms and to seek further use of ATSB guaranteed funds.

Today Susan Carey of the Wall Street Journal wrote the best review of US Airways situation and some key excerpts from here column are listed below:

- US Airways isn’t looking at selling assets, something it once studied, said Chris Chiames, senior vice president of corporate affairs. The issue “is what more needs to be done to our business plan to satisfy our backers and attract equityâ€￾. Now that the company has achieved everything it sought in labor and pension savings, he said, “we have every confidence we’re going to meet any financial deadline in front of us.â€￾

- Experts think US Airways is in danger but not yet a goner. Daniel Kasper, an airline economist for LECG LLC who has testified in U.S. Bankruptcy Court on behalf of US Airways management, said yesterday that “it’s a close ca;;, “But that the Cassandras (Cordle and Boyd for example) are going a bit overboardâ€￾ in predicting the carrier’s demise.

- “We believe US Airways US Airways is at least a near-term survivor,â€￾ Chase said. Without further labor actions such as those that marred the Christmas holiday, he said US Airways “will be a factor in the industry for the foreseeable future.â€￾

- One important creditor, the federal Air Transportation Stabilization Board, also appears to be taking a sympathetic view of US Airways’ efforts to transform itself into a low-cost airline during its second trip to bankruptcy court in two years. “We’ve been in discussions with them about their business plan and are talking to them about a mutual extensionâ€￾ of the financing deal that is keeping the company aloft in Chapter 11, said Mark Dayton, executive director of the agency.

Furthermore, Bloomberg reported tonight that the IAM agreed to not strike if the company would delay implementation of the court ruling as applied to the IAM collective bargaining agreements until after the ratification process has been completed, in the hope that all proposals will be ratified.

Could the IAM disrupt operations or not ratify their contract? Sure, but so far the union and its members seem to understand the consequences. Today’s operation went well, the IAM Maintenance Training Specialists have a TA, and Randy Canale, president of District Lodge 141, which represents the FSA’s seemed to soften his position because it appears he knows a failed TA ratification could be worse. Canale said, “Judge Mitchell ruled today in favor of the company’s motion to terminate our collective bargaining agreement, but the airline has agreed to maintain the status quo of current agreements until ratification is determined. Failure to accept the final offer will result in the contract being terminated. There was no way our negotiators could endorse an agreement that outsources our members’ jobs. While we would have preferred a different outcome, voting provides our members with an opportunity to avoid termination of their agreements, Canale said.

I believe the IAM will ratify their new agreements because it’s their best option. Will the vote be close? Probably, but what was interesting is that today every flight I flew was perfect. I flew from LGA to PHL, PHL to MCO, MCO to CLT, and CLT to LGA. Each flight had great service from every work group, even after “impositionâ€￾. Why is that? The fight is over and as Mitchell said, “everybody knows what is at stake here.â€￾

In regard to Southwest entering the Pittsburgh market, I do not believe the new competitor will have much effect on US Airways’ successful transformation. Why? The airports operating costs are relatively high and there is poor O&D. Pittsburgh already has LCC competition from Independence Air, USA3000, AirTran, and ATA and Southwest’s entrance is more of the same. Southwest’s entrance in the summer will be with a couple of gates and 10 to 14 flights, which may grow to 40 or 50 flights per day, with US Airways operating over 200 mainline and express flights per day.

Also noteworthy, US Airways effectively shifted Pittsburgh flying to Fort Lauderdale, where the costs are lower, yield/revenue higher, and the facilities/ATC almost as good as Pittsburgh.

Today Gary Chase, Lehman Brothers airline analyst said the “decision clearly hurts US Airways, but less so than it would have a year ago. We don't believe this breaks the back of US Airways.â€￾

Why? In my opinion US Airways must have a competitive cost structure that can support GoFares or it will fail, especially in light of Delta’s announcement. Low fares are the future and either the company offers them at a profit, or it liquidates.

Meanwhile, US Airways will get a revenue boost at DCA because Independence Air, a problematic LCC, announced a cost-cutting move yesterday when it said it plans to eliminate 150 of its 560 daily flights -- most in and out of Dulles -- at the end of this month. Who wins? United and US Airways.

Separately, today the LGA Station Manager, Loretta Bove, told me yesterday the company announced they are going to increase staffing at PHL, which should help enormously. The company is offering furloughed employees for all ground work groups the opportunity to be a temporary employee, from 60 to 120 days, to work in PHL. These employees would handle customer service, baggage handling, catering, marshalling, and other duties.

In conclusion, does US Airways have problems? Absolutely, but the good news is that the financial community still supports the company, one of the three IAM units has a TA, seven out of nine unions have new labor accords, the IAM is hinting to the IAM-FSA and IAM-M units they should ratify their TA, and the company is still trying to restructure. Moreover, the court’s S.1113/S.1114 ruling gives the company more restructuring momentum and should provide more passenger confidence for future bookings. The company now has a greater chance of survival, all none contracts in place one way or another, and no strike threats or aggressive action, which is why the system operated normally yesterday.

Also noteworthy, an interesting twist developed early this morning when the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported that IAM-M spokesman Joe Tiberi said talks between the mechanics and the company continued after yesterday's hearing ended but it was still unclear what would be put to a vote. Why is that and could the IAM still want a meaningful TA?

In a company statement Jerry Glass was right when he said, “I believe our employees understand the gravity of the situation and will support these proposals as the best way to send a message to our customers and the financial community that we are united in our efforts to be successful.â€￾ Furthermore, "I think everyone understands what's at stake here," Mitchell said. In that light I do too.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 
All this may work and save the airline for just awhile and I for one want it survive since I work here. However I just dont see it happening or lasting too long! Now you will have a company that has one of the worst workforces in the airline industry. And can you blame anyone and everyone for having attitudes!
US Airways will never be a Southwest or Airtran, Jetblue type of operation. You need happy and motivated workers, people that want to help the airline grow and survive and enjoy coming to work and the envirnoment. That will never happen at this airline! I hear all the time from my business friends that travel on US a bunch. Rude gate agents, FA's, service is terrible etc. You just can't teach old dogs new tricks.
I just think it impossible to have a Group of workings that made X amount of dollars. And now you have raped them for about 50% of what they made when you include work pay and bennies. I don't see that employee going the extra mile for anyone. I think this place will just become a place to collect a paycheck, and that will make for one Sh&tty working condition.
I hope this place makes it! But if it does, I don't think it will rank up there with airlines that people want to work for or fly on.
 
I don't think it will last long either. I think when this airline stabilizes it will wind up being merged in the next year or so.
 
Henrich you hit the Bull's Eye. This is all about getting cost down and work force size down so it can be sold. That is the only way Bronner can get any money back because he is too far down in the pecking order to get anything if the company is liquidated. This is certainly bad medicne to swallow with the cust and benefit changes but it does maintain jobs for those that want to stay. I feel with the right leadership those that remain could rally behind some new blood in leadership position. I can not understand why the BOD continues to allow these same individuals to remain. They have trown away so much money that they could have gotten someone that knows how to lead. Having said that I also feel Lakefield primary purpose was to do the things necessary from the financial side of the equation. That part is almost complete and now the BOD must look for a new team to take care of the operational side of the equation. I feel we still have the ability to be a major player and make money but must have a CEO and people in planning and pricing that have visions of where we are headed and how we are to get there and I do not think we currently have any of those thype individuals. Once that is done we would be an excellent opportunity for someone to buy or merge with. I wish those that decide to remain a less stressful environment and maybe some management that can interact with employees and work toward a better relationship. Time will tell!!!
 
USA320Pilot said:
What bothers me about some of our posts is that a reader looks at a comment in the newspaper and they believe the comment is fact.
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Why does that bother you? You'd like everyone on here to take everything you post as a "fact"...
 
"reducing the 21 percent “imposedâ€￾ pay cut to a much more manageable number and preserving a majority of the 8,500 IAM positions"

Does anyone know what this means yet?
It could be 20% and 4,249 lay offs...
 
Also noteworthy...
The day to day top operations officer of the company has admitted he does not want to be here, and, We still have Crelin/Paladidini/Baldenza/others running the show. It appears US has bought some time. How much?

Go ahead..start bashing.
 
I'm just blowin in the wind but I believe that based on everything presented the actual NET job loss for mechanics would either be minimal or zero and possibly they might gain positions. That isn't to say that there might not be displacements. As for pay, I thought that I saw somewhere that the mechanics were looking at a 6% pay cut from pre-21% cut levels.

Again, this is only MY OPINION and SPECULATION. (but it is probably correct because I am never worng)

ha ha...(wrong),
jm
 
A couple of more things...

USA320Pilot said:
In regard to Southwest entering the Pittsburgh market, I do not believe the new competitor will have much effect on US Airways’ successful transformation. Why? The airports operating costs are relatively high and there is poor O&D. Pittsburgh already has LCC competition from Independence Air, USA3000, AirTran, and ATA and Southwest’s entrance is more of the same. Southwest’s entrance in the summer will be with a couple of gates and 10 to 14 flights, which may grow to 40 or 50 flights per day, with US Airways operating over 200 mainline and express flights per day.
WN's entrance is not more of the same. What are US' yields on PIT-BWI/PHL? Is it not a problem that the yields on those routes will soon be 1/3 of what they are now?


In my opinion US Airways must have a competitive cost structure that can support GoFares or it will fail, especially in light of Delta’s announcement. Low fares are the future and either the company offers them at a profit, or it liquidates.
That took some insight. Does anyone anywhere disagree?

But the question has to be asked: Why hasn't US Airways implemented system-wide Go-Fares? Ever since the 2nd bankruptcy we all heard how that was the answer as long as costs were reduced sufficiently. Yet Delta beat US to the punch. Why? Are costs still not in line? Would the revenue hit be too severe? Why not spend some time answering that question instead of cutting news quotes to spin your story?

Meanwhile, US Airways will get a revenue boost at DCA because Independence Air, a problematic LCC, announced a cost-cutting move yesterday when it said it plans to eliminate 150 of its 560 daily flights -- most in and out of Dulles -- at the end of this month. Who wins? United and US Airways.
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Do UA and US really win? Both airlines have wanted and hoped and think that FlyI will go down in flames, and fast. FlyI hasn't really done anything right yet, and was quickly on track to do just that. But this move might extend their life a little while longer. Is that good? For FlyI to not die and keep living, continue to be a thorn in the side of UA/US? Sure the capacity removed from the system won't hurt, but wouldn't you rather just have FlyI perish instead of continue to operate in a smaller fashion?

Another interesting angle from this is that FlyI is having lots and lots of trouble making money while flying RJs around on low fares. Isn't that half of the US transformation plan? Fly lots of RJs with system-wide Go-Fares? Maybe US is planning to transform itself into Independence Air....
 
Re: WSurfs comments about "hear all the time from my business friends that travel on US a bunch. Rude gate agents, FA's, service is terrible etc. You just can't teach old dogs new tricks." This may be acurate but I fly US (non-rev) a lot and only find the complete opposite, including recently. My last trip between Christmas and New Years was 3 legs on US (2 Mainline,1 express) and one on AA. Looking back all I remember about the 3 US legs was great on time or early service from friendly agents and crews who seemed to care. All I remember about the AA flight was "ONE" friendly gate agent, and every other AA employee and crew member was cranky, uncarring, uninterested, took then over an hour to turn a 757, arrived 90 mins late (no ATC, VFR weather), hard uncomfortable seat, drinks and pretzels on a 160 min flight at dinner time (the US flights on a similar city pair, dept time at least offered Buy on Board snack boxes), an option that would have been nice on AA ! Just my two cents folks, good luck everybody !

LGA777
 
Heinrich said:
I don't think it will last long either. I think when this airline stabilizes it will wind up being merged in the next year or so.
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I agree, UA is mirroring UAIR's cost cuts with labor. Maybe the transformation and departure from bankruptsy ends up with a marriage between UA and UAIR after all. UA will have cut their domestic route structure by 41% come February !
 
LGA777 said:
Re: WSurfs comments about "hear all the time from my business friends that travel on US a bunch. Rude gate agents, FA's, service is terrible etc. You just can't teach old dogs new tricks." This may be acurate but I fly US (non-rev) a lot and only find the complete opposite, including recently. My last trip between Christmas and New Years was 3 legs on US (2 Mainline,1 express) and one on AA. Looking back all I remember about the 3 US legs was great on time or early service from friendly agents and crews who seemed to care. All I remember about the AA flight was "ONE" friendly gate agent, and every other AA employee and crew member was cranky, uncarring, uninterested, took then over an hour to turn a 757, arrived 90 mins late (no ATC, VFR weather), hard uncomfortable seat, drinks and pretzels on a 160 min flight at dinner time (the US flights on a similar city pair, dept time at least offered Buy on Board snack boxes), an option that would have been nice on AA ! Just my two cents folks, good luck everybody !

LGA777
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You're not alone. Frankly I can't understand why anyone still flies AA. They act like passengers are an annoyance. "We know why you fly" -- really? You people seem to have a disconnect between AAdvertising and reAAlity.

US may have problems, but their employees make all the difference in the world.
 
USA320Pilot - would you just come clean and admit that your exit strategy from USAirways, should that day come, is to become an anaylist somewhere for the airline sector?

:)

Unlike many, I enjoy reading 320's post because they pull together a lot of sources I may not have read or caught yet. His comments and opinions usually reveal a "big picture" or macro view of the airline, and industry while too many people on this board are focused on the microview (their union or themselves).
 
USA320Pilot said:
When evaluating the proposal, IAM members must look at two points:

Yeah:
1. Pay no attention to the scared Airbus pilot behind the curtain and his 2500 word diatribe (good grief, could he get any more verbose... the longer the post, the more afraid he is...)

2. Vote their conscience and provide for the needs of themselves and their families.

Why? US Airways agreed to keep the status quo on pay and work rules for the IAM until Jan. 21, when one of two things will take place: Either the union membership will ratify a new contract with the company, or the union will vote down the company's latest offer, then have those cutbacks forced on them anyway.

Some good faith bargaining here... Do it our way, or we'll force you to do it our way.

What bothers me about some of our posts is that a reader looks at a comment in the newspaper and they believe the comment is fact.

Whlindner: you hit the nail on the head. USA320Pilot likes to think he knows more, but does he? I think not. And besides, if what is in the news paper is not "fact", then why does USA320Pilot report every stinkin artilce in every stinkin paper including the Altoona News-Times and Swap Meet Report? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

When reading a periodical the best sources are key analysts like Merrill’s Michael Linnenberg, S&P’s Phil Baggaley, and Lehman’s Gary Chase. The only news reporters who truly have a handle on the inside information are Susan Carey of the Wall Street Journal, Michelline Maynard of the New York Times, Lynn Marek of Bloomberg News, and Dan Roberts of the Financial Times. I do not listen to anybody else because they are not informed, but the people listed above can directly speak with every industry CEO, if desired.

Then, maybe USA320Pilot, you could begin posting ONLY stories from these authors and sources... Yeah, I didn't think so either.

"It definitely increases the chances of this airline surviving," Terry Trippler, an air travel consultant in Minneapolis, said. There is no bargaining after this," said Peter Capelli, a management professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School of Business who has studied airline labor relations. "The company is going to get to do what it wants to do, whether the union agrees or not," the Times reported.

Uh-oh... Already using "uninformed" sources!

- Experts think US Airways is in danger but not yet a goner. Daniel Kasper, an airline economist for LECG LLC who has testified in U.S. Bankruptcy Court on behalf of US Airways management, said yesterday that “it’s a close ca;;, “But that the Cassandras (Cordle and Boyd for example) are going a bit overboard†in predicting the carrier’s demise.

Now here's a guy who's opinion we like because its the same as ours, not because he's an "informed" source.

In regard to Southwest entering the Pittsburgh market, I do not believe the new competitor will have much effect on US Airways’ successful transformation. Why? The airports operating costs are relatively high and there is poor O&D. Pittsburgh already has LCC competition from Independence Air, USA3000, AirTran, and ATA and Southwest’s entrance is more of the same. Southwest’s entrance in the summer will be with a couple of gates and 10 to 14 flights, which may grow to 40 or 50 flights per day, with US Airways operating over 200 mainline and express flights per day.

Yeah, and even though AirTran, America West, Independence Air, and Frontier were already operating at PHL when Southwest announced its new service, Southwest's new service had no impact on US Airways... Oh, wait, that is pattently false, as US Airways had to rush out a bunch of GoFares days after Southwest began flying...

Separately, today the LGA Station Manager, Loretta Bove, told me yesterday the company announced they are going to increase staffing at PHL, which should help enormously.

Another pro-active move by US Airways management... Not!

In conclusion, does US Airways have problems? Absolutely, but the good news is that the financial community still supports the company

Oh yeah, then where are RSA and the other potential investors lining up at the door to dump some cash into US Airways? Oh yeah, they are not there. And the ATSB and banks calling parts of the ATSB loan surely demonstrates the financial communities support.

In conclusion, USA320Pilot... You are still a windbag... long posts that don't say much, except quote a million different sources which you have now deemed "uninformed". I am all for good analysis, and good analysis sometimes is not repeating what you want to hear. As soon as Boyd posts an article which says the legacies aren't dead yet (which he often does), I am sure you will not only post the link, but also show a connection how this means US Airways is a survivor... Assuming US Airways is still in business.
 
funguy, whos the wind bag? you spent all that time and your point is? Disgusting that all u can muster is an insult... go do your job if u still have one!
 

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