luvthe9
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The judge is sick
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I don't have any actual, real info, but if I had to guess, she's getting much-needed substance abuse treatment. Seriously, that or she's just a mental case.
Her history of inappropriate comments unbecomming of a federal judge as detailed in this now-closed thread:
http://www.usaviation.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=23972
was a clear sign that something was wrong with her.
I wish her the best for solving whatever "health" issues plague her.
As I said in the linked thread, she was clearly in over her head, as demonstrated by her widely-reported comments.
Her history of inappropriate comments unbecomming of a federal judge as detailed in this now-closed thread:
http://www.usaviation.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=23972
was a clear sign that something was wrong with her.
I wish her the best for solving whatever "health" issues plague her.
As I said in the linked thread, she was clearly in over her head, as demonstrated by her widely-reported comments.
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She apparently has hip and knee problems.
Expectations are that the new judge will move faster once he gets up to speed. And he's much more by the book - and w/o a sense of humor or whatever you want to call it.
Expectations are that the new judge will move faster once he gets up to speed. And he's much more by the book - and w/o a sense of humor or whatever you want to call it.
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Making parties in a dispute feel like they'd be better off coming to a mutual agreement, rather than trusting an outside authority is probably the preference of many or all bankruptcy judges. There are many ways to communicate that message to the parties. The message might be in the madness.
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Well don't expect me to attend a PITY Party for that judge (and I use that reference with contempt). When someone like her thinks they can belittle the common worker and basically insult every INDUSTRY employee, I hope she croaks.....on the bench or in her home. Then we will see WHAT is so funny 
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Which 'common worker' did she belittle? All I remember her belittling was the pilots (and later management) - and I'd hardly call either of those professions 'common workers'.Well don't expect me to attend a PITY Party for that judge (and I use that reference with contempt). When someone like her thinks they can belittle the common worker and basically insult every INDUSTRY employee, I hope she croaks.....on the bench or in her home. Then we will see WHAT is so funny
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I don't understand how you reach this conclusion.
These are highly educated and highly skilled professionals. As much as I disagree with some of the actions of their union there is nothing 'common' about your average major airline pilot. Major airline pilots - even with the paycuts - are in the top 5-10% of wage earners in the United States IIRC (I could be wrong).
So you have a group of people whose education and income are well above average. That just doesn't sound 'common' to me.
Highly educated? How so? 4 year college degrees are what is necessary (normally). That isn't that uncommon. I've never met a pilot with a PhD, so I'm going to stand firm that they aren't that "highly educated". It, unfortunately, has come down to the fact that flying isn't as difficult to learn as it once was OR you have so many people who somehow have managed to pass their pilots license that it has been rendered as a pretty accessible career option.
I don't believe that management gives a poop how much money they used to make, they have found that there are legions of able and willing pilots out there who will work for much less money which basically renders the job into a "common laborer" description. As is typical in this world we live in, automation has turned this once proud career into a much easier to achieve career option. As long as there is a glut of available pilots out there, I doubt you'll see any swing back to the old payrates.
This is not meant as a flame, I just think that the entire mystique about pilots is finally over and management decided to push the envelope to see how far they could lower the bar. I feel like I'm watching a Limbo Contest.
I don't believe that management gives a poop how much money they used to make, they have found that there are legions of able and willing pilots out there who will work for much less money which basically renders the job into a "common laborer" description. As is typical in this world we live in, automation has turned this once proud career into a much easier to achieve career option. As long as there is a glut of available pilots out there, I doubt you'll see any swing back to the old payrates.
This is not meant as a flame, I just think that the entire mystique about pilots is finally over and management decided to push the envelope to see how far they could lower the bar. I feel like I'm watching a Limbo Contest.
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Actually, only about 1/4 of all Americans have at least a Bachelor's degree. By simply having a college degree, pilots are already in the top quarter of the entire population for educational attainment. Many have master's degrees, which is technically an 'advanced' degree. (Source of the data: http://www.census.gov/population/www/socde...n/cps2004.html)
I agree. I don't necessarily think all managements are as cynical as you imply (Northwest being probably the worst), but each is taking advantage of the situation to a certain degree - including Delta.
Well then I guess one is safe to assume that most flight attendants are highly educated also. I don't know too many who haven't recieved a college degree too.
I must admit, I'm shocked that only 25% of the population has one. I don't think I know anyone who doesn't have one. Who are these people and where do they live?????
Little bit of a contradiction in the above, isn't there?
"I don't know too many who haven't..." (which would infer that you DO know a few)
Followed by: "I don't think I know ANYONE who doesn't..."
I'd wager that about a quarter of the peole I interact with on a regular basis (mainly work) have a degree. Which would fit the stat.
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Highly educated? How so? 4 year college degrees are what is necessary (normally). That isn't that uncommon. I've never met a pilot with a PhD, so I'm going to stand firm that they aren't that "highly educated".
Not true...Most pilots ARE 'highly educated'. I've flown with a few pilots that have a M.D., D.C. or Law Degree. The average line pilot will have at least a BS/BA, many have MS/MA and a few will earn a PhD.
How many Pilot's do you interact with for hours at a time each day? Do you ask each of those pilots his or her educational background during your conversations?
Not true...Most pilots ARE 'highly educated'. I've flown with a few pilots that have a M.D., D.C. or Law Degree. The average line pilot will have at least a BS/BA, many have MS/MA and a few will earn a PhD.
How many Pilot's do you interact with for hours at a time each day? Do you ask each of those pilots his or her educational background during your conversations?
I "interact" with them all right! 😀
I fly only internationally and I'm usually the purser, I also go out with them on almost every layover....yes, I know how highly educated they are. MOST have a college degree as do MOST of the flight attendants. There are always a few overachievers but thats the average guy.
I fly only internationally and I'm usually the purser, I also go out with them on almost every layover....yes, I know how highly educated they are. MOST have a college degree as do MOST of the flight attendants. There are always a few overachievers but thats the average guy.
