The Philly Twenty Two
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EricLv2Fish
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wings396
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Some things never change....So much for those of us that were hopeful of a good transition agreement..
robbedagain
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with armedio being the negogiator there aint a chance in he!! of any kind of transition happenin :down:
libertybell
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The only negotiating Tony will be doing is for himself. With him on the committee he will gladly sell us out again to save his own a$$.
robbedagain
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if you read libertybell's post below, it tells all the truth about armedio. armedio is nothin more than a spoiled rich snob who cant handle his job as a union negogiator he is very much responsible for the screw ups we have been thru
The 141 NC (who doesn't poot unless the GC gives permission)sold out 30 high-seniority stations last year (many of which remain mainline for CWA, as point of comparison).
The same 141 NC negotiated away fleets recall rights - the only represented group on the property who did so.
When it is all said and done, I'd wager a far larger percentage of fleet stays furloughed than any other group.
Who is one of the common denominators?
Armedio, the willing tool.
PB,
He initially got appointed, and given the arcane voting rules, you couldn't get Jesus elected from the floor unless the leadership blessed it.
I've made the challenge many times, and haven't had any takers yet. Name two members who, from the floor, overturned a sitting AGC.
Duh-duh-duh-duh, duh-duh duhhhhh (Jeopardy theme music B) )
The same 141 NC negotiated away fleets recall rights - the only represented group on the property who did so.
When it is all said and done, I'd wager a far larger percentage of fleet stays furloughed than any other group.
Who is one of the common denominators?
Armedio, the willing tool.
PB,
He initially got appointed, and given the arcane voting rules, you couldn't get Jesus elected from the floor unless the leadership blessed it.
I've made the challenge many times, and haven't had any takers yet. Name two members who, from the floor, overturned a sitting AGC.
Duh-duh-duh-duh, duh-duh duhhhhh (Jeopardy theme music B) )
SpinDoc
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Whu...... Have you not looked at the COB postings on usairways.com lately? There are QUITE a few fleet service openings, and I would assume that they will be backfilled with furloughed employees before they hire new employees.
There are a TON of fleet service openings across the entire system.
libertybell
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Well can't he be voted out by the members?
Or does he use the same tactics with you folks as he did with TWU?
Also how did he get his position? Remember this is a family friendly website
Bob,
To Answer your 1st question yes they could in a fair democratic system but your dealing with the IAM.
Here is a example
Bob wants to get rid of Tony as a AGC so Bob decides to run against him. First Bob needs to get on the Ballot so he has to win the support of 4 lodges in Dist 141. Bob would have to know people in those lodges to get him nominated then win the lodge endorsement. USAirways Fleet Service is mixed in with several other Airlines like United and Hawawian and some lodges have no USAirways workers. So Bob if he is lucky enough to win the nominations in the 4 its still imposable for Bob to win the General election vote. The AGC's run the election like the Mob runs Mafia they watch each others back. Tony has no problem geting nominated in not just 4 lodges but all the lodges. Tony knows Bill and Tom and Joe and all the other AGC's so when the nominations are made Tony gets his goons to nominate Bill and Tom and Joe and any other AGC and they other AGC's do the same for him. They run on a slate which is imposable for Bob to compete against. When the vote comes Bob is placed all the way at the bottom and all the slate boys are at the top on the ballot since they won the majority of the lodges. But hell even if Bob does win the 4 lodges the District pulls fast ones and cheats to invalidates the nominations. Now you say how could that happen read than this report on how District 141 found guilty
Bob to your second question you already answered yourself.
And third Tony was appointed as a VP to 141 and then promoted and appointed as an AGC. Once your apponted your in for life no one has ever been voted out. Like I said before its run like the Mafia once you get in your in for life.
Hope that explains things
And if a furloughed ramp agent accepts a position, he will start over in pay and bidding seniority, right at the bottom.
$9 in Filthadelphia? Or anywhere else, for that matter.
Nahhhh!
SpinDoc
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Dio:
I was not aware that furloughed employees had to start at the bottom of the scale. I assumed the unions would have some protectionist language in the contract that brought them back at their previous wage.
