Trump's immigration proposal

CMH_GSE

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Of course it sounded weird to those that don't know history, but to the rest of us, seemed like a fairly reasonable place to start.
Certainly, the conversation needs to begin.

The US did severely restrict immigration from 1924-1965.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

And in 1952 another law passed to again restrict immigration to certain groups
http://library.uwb.edu/static/USimmigration/1952_immigration_and_nationality_act.html

President Carter used this very law in 1979
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261062/carter-banned-iranians-coming-us-during-hostage-daniel-greenfield
 
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Letting people in whose background can not be determined isn't a good idea ether.
No accessible past, no entry.
 
8 US Code 1182 
 
(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182
 
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xUT said:
FYI,
Trump is crazy.
Scary thing is he might win... :p
 
Trump will take out the Dome of the Rock with a Tomahawk and rebuild it and make it his ME White House.
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Kev3188 said:
1. Welcome back.

2. A wholesale ban on immigration is not something I want to see, precedence or not...
 
Why not? You like Muslim's mowing down americans? 
 
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Kev3188 said:
1. Welcome back.
2. A wholesale ban on immigration is not something I want to see, precedence or not...
1. Thanks

2. A little reading on history of immigration would be helpful.

Contrary to what Obama would have you believe, Immigration is not for the benefit of the immigrant, it's meant to be to the benefit of the country.

Immigrants are supposed to assimilate , not come here and demand they get to do things here like they did where they came from.

When you have immigration run amuck , you will invite the destruction of your culture.
There's no law that says we get to be the USA forever.

You only need to look at the Roman Empire , which was in existence a lot longer than we've been a country. They forgot what made them Roman and it withered away.

I kind of like this place and want it to stay the way it is/was for a while.

The female shooter in Cali should have never been allowed into this country, our vetting is obviously flawed, it's time for a pause and serious fix.
 
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Dog Wonder said:
You may win some battles against time but winning the war is not likely.
Well then, I guess you can hop on the next flight to Syria and present Isis with articles of surrender.


I'll stay here and fight for my country to continue being a country.

BTW, a little off this topic, but still has to do with immigration.
If we are such a racist country, why are people of color busting down the borders to get in?
 
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CMH_GSE said:
Well then, I guess you can hop on the next flight to Syria and present Isis with articles of surrender.


I'll stay here and fight for my country to continue being a country.

BTW, a little off this topic, but still has to do with immigration.
If we are such a racist country, why are people of color busting down the borders to get in?
 

Is racism/bigotry binary?
 
townpete said:
Why not? You like Muslim's mowing down americans?
Shame we can't get you to emigrate somewhere.

  
CMH_GSE said:
1. Thanks
2. A little reading on history of immigration would be helpful.
Contrary to what Obama would have you believe, Immigration is not for the benefit of the immigrant, it's meant to be to the benefit of the country.
Immigrants are supposed to assimilate , not come here and demand they get to do things here like they did where they came from.
When you have immigration run amuck , you will invite the destruction of your culture.
There's no law that says we get to be the USA forever.
You only need to look at the Roman Empire , which was in existence a lot longer than we've been a country. They forgot what made them Roman and it withered away.
I kind of like this place and want it to stay the way it is/was for a while.
The female shooter in Cali should have never been allowed into this country, our vetting is obviously flawed, it's time for a pause and serious fix.
I like this country too, but I don't like the path we're on.

Look, I'm not advocating immigration "running amok" and I agree that some common sense solutions need to be arrived at; I just don't think Jingoism is the way to go. Trump's proving that it is very easy to prey upon people's fears.
 
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I think assimilation in this country is a bit of a misnomer. Whites in this country have a long history of segregating foreigners. Also, people have a tendency to congregate with people who are familiar so it works out well.

Look at all the "Little 'insert country here'" such as little China, little Tokyo, LIttle Italy .... etc.

I think the idea of vetting everyone who enters this country is a pipe dream. I do not know how many people have history, much less history that the US intelligence community would know about. Thousands of people fly into and through the US every day. How do you track everyone?
 
The issue is these people coming from countries that support radical Islam. Where they left for the most part has no databases or tracking systems as its pretty much blown up, ground into the dirt. If Interpol or any other Intel sources don't have anything, those people are after Intels last listed bad guys....who enjoy the luxury of no known info on them.
 
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Kev3188 said:
Shame we can't get you to emigrate somewhere.

   I like this country too, but I don't like the path we're on.

Look, I'm not advocating immigration "running amok" and I agree that some common sense solutions need to be arrived at; I just don't think Jingoism is the way to go. Trump's proving that it is very easy to prey upon people's fears.
 
And what are these "common sense" solution's you speak of???
 
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