TSA

[delldude]

Thing is, TSA airport security has nothing to do with security, and everything to do with making sure that every human being who transits within or through a US commercial airport knows exactly who is in charge. We call it the Tip of the Spear.

The idea is to desensitize people to government intrusion, generally with something shocking (like treating a 6-year old girl as a criminal terrorist). That’s the tip of the spear. As the spear drives further and further into its target, subsequent intrusions seem less and less acute.

Psychologist Robert Cialdini, whose writings on influence and persuasion have been read by millions across the world in dozens of languages, discusses three key principles which apply to this ‘Tip of the Spear’ approach.

The first is called social proof. It’s easy to understand– like lemmings, sheep, or milk cows, people standing in the security line watching everyone else get patted down and go through body scanners, will most likely comply with the social norm. Monkey see, monkey do.

The second is the principle of authority. Also easy to understand– people will obey authority figures even if it requires taking objectionable action. Uniforms establish an authority image, as do the training programs that teach intimidation tactics to government agents– voice projection, direct eye contact, use of professional vocabulary, etc.

The third is a bit more complex; Cialdini calls it the principle of commitment and consistency. Simply put, if people commit to an idea in word or deed, their future actions will be consistent with this idea because it becomes part of their own self-image.

In this context, people who submit to government intrusion the first time (e.g. watch their children receive pat-downs at TSA checkpoints) are more likely to continue acceding to further government intrusions down the road. It’s a bit of a boiling frog approach.

Read more: http://www.sovereignman.com/expat/how-to-tell-youre-living-in-the-wrong-country/#ixzz1kUEwJmuj

While sitting in the cubicle, I thought to myself, have the terrorists won? Have we sacrificed our liberty and our dignity for security? Finally, the airport head of TSA arrived after I had missed my flight. He let me go back through the scanner and this time the scanner did not go off. The only comment from TSA was that some of the alarms are simply random.

So passengers who do everything right, remove their belts, remove their wallets, remove their shoes, their glasses and all of the contents in their pockets are then subjected to random patdowns and tricked into believing that the scanners actually detected something.

It is time for us to question the effectiveness of TSA. America can prosper, preserve personal liberty and repel national security threats without intruding into the personal lives of its citizens.

Every time we travel, we are expected to surrender our Fourth Amendment rights, yet willingly giving up our rights does not make us any safer. It is infuriating that this agency feels entitled to revoke our civil liberties while doing little to keep us safe.

Rand Paul

 

[Dog Wonder]

I thought there was another thread about Rand Paul being sent to detention.

Went through security twice yesterday. Didn't get a patdown or a probe either time.

Maybe I should change my attitude.

 

[tech2101]

I thought there was another thread about Rand Paul being sent to detention.

How Senator Rand Paul's Morning Could Have Gone:

Paul goes through airport security in Nashville, Tennessee. For some reason, he triggers the body scanner. As required by the TSA, he receives a pat down, which finds nothing suspicious on him. He continues on his way. He purchases a grossly overpriced chicken Caesar salad wrap at a concession stand, and waits for his flight to D.C.


How Senator Rand Paul's Morning Actually Went: Paul goes through airport security in Nashville, Tennessee. For some reason, he triggers the body scanner. Paul, a TSA critic, refuses a pat down and demands a second pass through the body scanner instead. Since senators can't rewrite airport screening rules for themselves, he is not allowed to proceed through the security checkpoint, and is escorted out by police. Paul misses his flight. His spokesperson inaccurately tweets that Paul is "being detained" by the TSA.

Rand Paul Drama Queen

 

[xUT]

I thought there was another thread about Rand Paul being sent to detention.

Went through security twice yesterday. Didn't get a patdown or a probe either time.

Maybe I should change my attitude.

Put a sock in your jock and get ready for a patty pat...

 

[SparrowHawk]

How Senator Rand Paul's Morning Could Have Gone:

Paul goes through airport security in Nashville, Tennessee. For some reason, he triggers the body scanner. As required by the TSA, he receives a pat down, which finds nothing suspicious on him. He continues on his way. He purchases a grossly overpriced chicken Caesar salad wrap at a concession stand, and waits for his flight to D.C.


How Senator Rand Paul's Morning Actually Went: Paul goes through airport security in Nashville, Tennessee. For some reason, he triggers the body scanner. Paul, a TSA critic, refuses a pat down and demands a second pass through the body scanner instead. Since senators can't rewrite airport screening rules for themselves, he is not allowed to proceed through the security checkpoint, and is escorted out by police. Paul misses his flight. His spokesperson inaccurately tweets that Paul is "being detained" by the TSA.

Rand Paul Drama Queen

If he did not make his original flight (which he didn't) then he was by definition DETAINED. In this case by yet another out of control bureaucratic, over zealous Shopping mall security guards with Federal Gov. Benefits.

I guess you have to be a filthy, unwashed, poop on the street Occupy Wall Street type to engage in a little civil disobedience. If you;re a Senator you're a drama queen. I understand now!

 

[Ms Tree]

Just so we are using the same definition. If you re at a RR crossing while a train is passing in front of you preventing forward motion and you miss your flight. Were you detained?

 

[tech2101]

If he did not make his original flight (which he didn't) then he was by definition DETAINED.

Rand Paul chose not to abide by the established rules, thereby preventing him from being allowed to proceed to his flight.

Again, he is a lawmaker. All he has to do is convince the House and Senate to pass a law changing the rules and he will not have to worry about this.

If that was some unruly ows person causing a delay by refusing to follow the rules in the line in front of you, I bet you would be singing a different tune.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Just so we are using the same definition. If you re at a RR crossing while a train is passing in front of you preventing forward motion and you miss your flight. Were you detained?

NO! You're stuck in Traffic. One os an overt act by the Government, the other isn't.

Rand Paul chose not to abide by the established rules, thereby preventing him from being allowed to proceed to his flight.

Again, he is a lawmaker. All he has to do is convince the House and Senate to pass a law changing the rules and he will not have to worry about this.

If that was some unruly ows person causing a delay by refusing to follow the rules in the line in front of you, I bet you would be singing a different tune.

He was DETAINED! Civil disobedience is appropriate in order to draw attention to issues important to one. No less then Thomas Jefferson weighed in on this, "I hold it, that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical." - Letter to James Madison (30 January 1787)

As to the OWS protestor holding up the line, I'd either speak up and try to cause a commotion or wait patiently. Maybe I'd just try to get some folks chanting "Ron Paul, Ron Paul" and see if we attract the media.

 

[Ms Tree]

Ok. Fair enough.

Is being detained for a traffic violation the same as being detained for assault or DUI?

 

[Dog Wonder]

I'd either speak up and try to cause a commotion or wait patiently. Maybe I'd just try to get some folks chanting "Ron Paul, Ron Paul" and see if we attract the media.

Start chanting Ron Paul and the media will come in droves.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Start chanting Ron Paul and the media will come in droves.

If I was flying in the wake of this event, they would

 

[Dog Wonder]

Don't count on it.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Don't count on it.

Just remember, I known a thing or two about embarrassing via the media

 

[Dog Wonder]

Embarrassing yourself won't accomplish anything. Rand Paul proves that.

What are you going to do?

Follow Rand Paul every time he flies?

 

[SparrowHawk]

Embarrassing yourself won't accomplish anything. Rand Paul proves that.

What are you going to do?

Follow Rand Paul every time he flies?

Never mind!

The reference was if an OWS type was holding up the line. I'm frankly weary of the pithy snippets instead of an actual point of view.