Turks Shoot Down Russian Fighter
- Thread starter delldude
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That there ain't no accident, on either side
Good thing Turkey is in NATO, we may finally have an excuse (obligation...) to go kill us some Ruskies
That would be an observation, not any sort of argument
Good thing Turkey is in NATO, we may finally have an excuse (obligation...) to go kill us some Ruskies
That would be an observation, not any sort of argument
OP
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Shot down a helo then took it out with a Tow.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/russian-rescue-helicopter-shot-down-6891003
These are Obama backed rebels. This is wonderful.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/russian-rescue-helicopter-shot-down-6891003
These are Obama backed rebels. This is wonderful.
snip - "You have Sunni's faction ISIS fighting Syria! Yet Syria is alley to Iran who is supporting Shite militants to battle Sunni's. However, Saudi Arabia doesn't trust Iran so obviously supporting Sunni's. Let's add Turkey into the equation who have covertly been supporting ISIS because they are doing battle against the Kurds ! Russia now backing Syria to obviously go against ISIS but maybe Turkey now! - snip
Stole that, and it is just the tip of the berg...
Kissinger has no real solution, just a general caution to prioritize US interests in the region. (World Order - Kissinger...)
I'm sure the collective BS of blather brothers Rush, Bill, and Sean is smarter century's worth of American and European diplomatic history, and all the people who actually study and watch these people.
We should just ask the Blather Brothers what we should do...
Yeahhhh... That's the ticket....
Stole that, and it is just the tip of the berg...
Kissinger has no real solution, just a general caution to prioritize US interests in the region. (World Order - Kissinger...)
I'm sure the collective BS of blather brothers Rush, Bill, and Sean is smarter century's worth of American and European diplomatic history, and all the people who actually study and watch these people.
We should just ask the Blather Brothers what we should do...
Yeahhhh... That's the ticket....
snip again...
Senator John McCain visits FSA inside Syria.....
He stayed in the country for several hours before returning to Turkey. Both in Syria and Turkey, McCain and Idris met with assembled leaders of Free Syrian Army units that traveled from around the country to see the U.S. senator. Inside those meetings, rebel leaders called on the United States to step up its support to the Syrian armed opposition and provide them with heavy weapons, a no-fly zone, and airstrikes on the Syrian regime and the forces of Hezbollah, which is increasingly active in Syria.
......snip
Through NATO ally, Turkey, US supplied weapons to destabilize Assad.
With all that area that ISIS holds, Vladimir keeps picking FSA targets on the Turkish border.
Senator John McCain visits FSA inside Syria.....
He stayed in the country for several hours before returning to Turkey. Both in Syria and Turkey, McCain and Idris met with assembled leaders of Free Syrian Army units that traveled from around the country to see the U.S. senator. Inside those meetings, rebel leaders called on the United States to step up its support to the Syrian armed opposition and provide them with heavy weapons, a no-fly zone, and airstrikes on the Syrian regime and the forces of Hezbollah, which is increasingly active in Syria.
......snip
Through NATO ally, Turkey, US supplied weapons to destabilize Assad.
With all that area that ISIS holds, Vladimir keeps picking FSA targets on the Turkish border.
I sure the hell don't know the answer, wouldn't pretend to
Do you?
Or is it just "Obama's wrong...."
He may be, we know for sure W was, Clinton was, but less so than W, Bush The Elder didn't make any obvious screwups, but he was a career spook, Reagan screwed up big more than once, Carter got to deal with the overthrow of our puppet The Shah.
How far back does one go to find an actual successful effective Middle East policy by any Western Country, or them as a group?
The British Empire paid them off... Maybe we should try that?
I'm waiting for all of you learned genius types with all the experience and education to lay The Solution out here for the rest of us... And "Obama Sux" is not an or the answer....
Do you?
Or is it just "Obama's wrong...."
He may be, we know for sure W was, Clinton was, but less so than W, Bush The Elder didn't make any obvious screwups, but he was a career spook, Reagan screwed up big more than once, Carter got to deal with the overthrow of our puppet The Shah.
How far back does one go to find an actual successful effective Middle East policy by any Western Country, or them as a group?
The British Empire paid them off... Maybe we should try that?
I'm waiting for all of you learned genius types with all the experience and education to lay The Solution out here for the rest of us... And "Obama Sux" is not an or the answer....
OP
OP
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- #10
777 fixer said:
Where you been?
US has been (illegally)supplying arms to the Syrian rebels for some time.
Never heard of Benghazi?
To revisit an earlier theme, under which administration have more Americans died in terrorist attacks?
For bonus points, which administratin has actually killed more terrorists?
For bonus points, which administratin has actually killed more terrorists?
OP
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By Dave Boyer - The Washington Times -
Tuesday, November 24, 2015
President Obama said the shoot-down “points to an ongoing problem with the Russian operations” in Syria, including attacks against moderate Syrian opposition groups near the Turkish border.
If Russia were going after the Islamic State instead, Mr. Obama said, such mistakes “are less likely to occur.” He said it’s important for Turkish and Russian officials to communicate and to “discourage any kind of escalation.”
French President Francois Hollande called the incident “a serious one.”
Tuesday, November 24, 2015
President Obama said the shoot-down “points to an ongoing problem with the Russian operations” in Syria, including attacks against moderate Syrian opposition groups near the Turkish border.
If Russia were going after the Islamic State instead, Mr. Obama said, such mistakes “are less likely to occur.” He said it’s important for Turkish and Russian officials to communicate and to “discourage any kind of escalation.”
French President Francois Hollande called the incident “a serious one.”
traderjake
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777 fixer said:
Secret Pentagon Report Reveals US "Created" ISIS As A "Tool" To Overthrow Syria's President Assad
"use the Jihadists as the vehicle of choice to achieve a political goal: depose of Syria's president Assad, who for years has stood in the way of a critical Qatari natural gas pipeline, one which could dethrone Russia as Europe's dominant - and belligerent - source of energy"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-23/secret-pentagon-report-reveals-us-created-isis-tool-overthrow-syrias-president-assad
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