Webster, a USaviation.com Moderator, closed the thread titled Understanding sentiment and reaching the point of indifference because Lavman and Cat 111's comments and insults (which have been removed) and inability to debate in a mature fashion have closed this thread...others will be closed if you can't behave respectfully, Webster said.
First, I encourage all forum members to professionally debate any issue and I encourage all readers to go back into the orignial thread and read all of the posts.
However, I take great exception to a comment made by PineyBob.
To put this into context I said, I'm tired of going round and round and debating these issues. Let's just agree to disagree. There are more important things in life and unless things change, I'm not very optimistic about US Airways' future. Maybe it's time to move on and pursue other alternatives. In all sincerity, I wish all of the best of luck in your future(s). From my perspective, for the first time in my nearly 20-year career my heart is no longer in US Airways, which I find very sad.
In response PineBob said, Why because your position is indefensible?
PineyBob, with all due repsect, I have almost exclusively posted facts and not an indefensible opinion. When I post an opinion I use the phrase in my opinion or I believe, which is not very often.
What's interesting is that the entire ALPA MEC by a 12-0 margin, the MEC Officers, and the vast majority of the rank-and-file agree with ALPA's public comments. There is enormous pilot solidarity on this issue; therefore, I hardly find ALPA's position indefensible when nearly 8,000 active, furloughed, and retired pilots are all in concert on the pilot pension distressed termination issue.
Siegel's moves have galvanized this pilot group unlike ever before and I find one respected Wall Street analyst's comments to me interesting.
The airline analyst source who is close to the company said, This is a very compelling legal brief against the company's action. I think I now understand why ALPA is on such a rampage about this (and I don't blame them one bit, either).
That was not a good way to treat a group that was obviously cooperating, and is very much against the way Dave Siegel has been acting towards labor to date, he said.
It will be interesting to see how the judge handles this one. Either way, the handling of this issue will likely come back to haunt Siegel and Bronner. If the judge rules that he lacks jurisdiction to terminate the plan, the proceedings will be held up considerably. I think Siegel and Bronner will quickly come to the table to negotiate for some middle ground to prevent further delays. However, their negotiating position will have been jeopardized by the handling of the plan termination issue. If the judge terminates the plan, Siegel and co. are still left with a bitter pilot group, not a good way to emerge from Chapter 11 with designs on building a durable franchise, the analyst noted.
See PineyBob, with all due respect, Wall Street airline experts are now looking at this a bit different than you and interestingly now see the real time bomb that awaits Mr. Siegel, for a company that is now on the verge of imploding.
What a way for Mr. Siegel and Mr. Glass to end their restructuring efforts...
Regardless, as I said earlier, for the first time in my nearly 20-year career my heart is no longer in US Airways, which I find very sad.
Sincerely,
Chip