US Airways to Apply for China Service

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US AIRWAYS announces intention to apply for china service

February 9, 2007

US Airways today notified the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) that the airline will file an application to fly nonstop service from the United States to China, and urged the DOT to conduct a full competitive proceeding for a route that will become available in 2008.

US Airways had been considering applying for China authority for some time, and today responded to a Delta Air Lines’ application for Atlanta-Shanghai authority. US Airways asked the DOT to defer consideration of Delta’s application until a full proceeding can commence.

Hawaiian Airlines filed a similar motion with the DOT. American Airlines and Northwest Airlines, which already fly to China, also filed papers to start a route case so that they can get more frequencies.

“US Airways urges DOT to defer consideration of Delta’s application until there is the opportunity for full consideration of such other applications as may be submitted. Specifically, US Airways intends to apply for the designation and frequencies at issue, and it is presently coordinating its proposal with affected parties, including the U.S. gateways and communities it will serve,â€￾ US Airways said in its DOT filing today.

US Airways noted that DOT has conducted virtually every allocation of China frequencies by means of a comparative selection route proceeding. “There is no reason to deviate from that longstanding practice now, more than a year before the frequencies at issue even become available,â€￾ US Airways said in its filing.
 
Hmmmm.... do you think this PR just happened to get released today to shift the focus away from DP situation? There's no mention of where they plan on flying the route from, PHL or PHX? Sounds like the PR machine is at work.

Your PATHETIC!!
 
PHL-PVG = 6452nm
PHX-PVG = 5887nm

PHL-PEK = 5977nm
PHX-PEK = 5648nm

A330-200 published range = 6750nm with 293 pax in 30J/263Y, but that assume 40" pitch in J. To be anywhere near competitive, they'll have to do the lie-flat seats similar (or the same) that are going in the 762's at 60", which would mean the loss of approx. 12 J seats.

Which market (PHL or PHX) has the most potential to fill up with high paying passengers?
 
PHL-PVG = 6452nm
PHX-PVG = 5887nm

PHL-PEK = 5977nm
PHX-PEK = 5648nm

A330-200 published range = 6750nm with 293 pax in 30J/263Y.

Which market (PHL or PHX) has the most potential to fill up with high paying passengers?
I would think that the HEAT in PHX would have a major part of our fun little trip from PHX....

I could/would think of a stop over in LAX maybe?
Would/Could that happen? or SFO? ? ? :blink:
 
Hmmmm.... do you think this PR just happened to get released today to shift the focus away from DP situation? There's no mention of where they plan on flying the route from, PHL or PHX? Sounds like the PR machine is at work.


Nice try but they have talked about this openly several times at the employee forums.
 
Is this "intention to apply for China service" another one of those government hoops necessary to market United's China flights as our own?

Or are we really thinking about flying it with our own employees?

I imagine we will serve it as a HNL thru flight so we don't have to actually buy an airplane that will make it that far from CONUS.
 
My guess is the flight would leave out of PHX to fully utilize our route system. If they tried to fly out of PHL, it would be a lot of back-tracking for west coast customers.
 
That and the fact that it doesn't take much headwind before that "6750 mile range" won't make it from PHL.

Jim
 
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