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http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/30/bus...d.ap/index.html

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said "I would disagree with the characterization" that Bush is using Walter Reed as merely a picture-taking opportunity. ***She said it took some time to clear enough room on the president's schedule to spend over three hours with patients and staff at Walter Reed,*** and that Bush intends to find out from them what more needs to be done.
(* were added for emphasis)

Dell,

So you don't feel left out, here is the FOX version. The same quote is in both pieces.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,262640,00.html


They have a hard time clearing 3 hours but he can pop over to Iraq with no problem. Hmmmmm. It takes his sorry ass 6 weeks to go there because it's hard to clear 3 hours off his schedule? Does anyone else see how asinine that sounds?
 
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/30/bus...d.ap/index.html

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said "I would disagree with the characterization" that Bush is using Walter Reed as merely a picture-taking opportunity. ***She said it took some time to clear enough room on the president's schedule to spend over three hours with patients and staff at Walter Reed,*** and that Bush intends to find out from them what more needs to be done.
(* were added for emphasis)

Dell,

So you don't feel left out, here is the FOX version. The same quote is in both pieces.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,262640,00.html
They have a hard time clearing 3 hours but he can pop over to Iraq with no problem. Hmmmmm. It takes his sorry ass 6 weeks to go there because it's hard to clear 3 hours off his schedule? Does anyone else see how asinine that sounds?
The sad thing is at the VA's around the Country there are waiting list to get checked at. I have a Brother that was disabled from Vietnam. He had to move back near his upbringing so he could afford to live. He has to go to the VA for Agent Orange related illnesses and he was told that he has a 6-9 month waiting period to attend. The alternative is to fly him out to his old VA and get his care there every month. To send him to local doctors here is more of a cost and getting him insurance is impossible. And soldier that has to get medical attention has to wait. This is really unfair and an Injustice. If they can not fit him in at their VA's they ought to be responsible for his outside care. And then when he does happen to be able to get appointments, he will have to go thru all the tests over again, which he understands, but the appointments will be not all together. I can write a book about the injustice that they are causing, they are the ones that are sacrificing their lives, and this is the Thanks we give them, and Care? I was not a Clinton fan, but the VA's were runned alot better then, plus my Brother was able to afford living where he was at. Thank God I don't have to call Bush a Veteran.
 
I'm sure if you looked deep enough you'll find a majority of this debacle was a result of the Clinton years of gutting the military.
 
I'm sure if you looked deep enough you'll find a majority of this debacle was a result of the Clinton years of gutting the military.


And if you look farther you will find that instead of Reagan and Bush wasting money on weapons systems that are out dated and obsolete before they hit the ground (B1 bomber anyone?) and put the money in the VA's they would be in much better shape as well.

Bush had 6 years to fix the VA system if it was broken. The fact that he did nothing means that he too did not give a damn or did not have his handlers look to see if there were any problems that needed to be dealt with. Either wy, Bush has had 6 years and this is another ball he dropped.

http://www1.va.gov/opa/pressrel/pressrelease.cfm?id=181

http://www.aip.org/fyi/2000/fyi00.067.htm

Republican Congress decreased the amount (2nd link) that Clinton requested (1st link) for the VA in the 2001 budget.

According to the info I found the budgets are as follows

1994 $37B
1995 $38B
1996 $39B
1997 $40B
1998 $42.5B
1999 $44B
2000 $45.5B
2001 $47.7B
2002 $52B
2003 $59B
2004 $60B
2005 $65B
2006 $71B
2007 $80B (proposed)

Not sure where Clinton short changed the VA anywhere. There was no war any where and as far as I am aware, there were no investigations into the workings of the VA during his term. While W has increased the VA budget quite a bit, that would make sense given the fact that he started a war and was going to increase the patient load that the VA would have to deal with. Apparently the estimates that W used were quite low and now the VA is unable to deal with the influx of patients.
 
It just wonders me that people think that Dubya is competant. Ask him a question that he wasn't tutored, and he becomes a studdering idiot.
 
And if you look farther you will find that instead of Reagan and Bush wasting money on weapons systems that are out dated and obsolete before they hit the ground (B1 bomber anyone?) and put the money in the VA's they would be in much better shape as well.

Wow...just like people buying Playstaion...technology advancements are a ####....

Bush had 6 years to fix the VA system if it was broken. The fact that he did nothing means that he too did not give a damn or did not have his handlers look to see if there were any problems that needed to be dealt with. Either wy, Bush has had 6 years and this is another ball he dropped.
you're full of DooDoo....maybe he wasn't aware....you know,crap like this stays hidden from superiors all the time...I saw it first hand at US Air....Government is different :lol: He was fixing the shortages the military was dealt under BJ Clinton.....you still have an election Hard-on Dude....go spank your monkey and feel better... :lol:

NEWS RELEASE :shock:
House Committee on Veterans' Affairs
Chairman Bob Stump, 335 Cannon House Office Building, Washington D.C. 20515

IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: DAN AMON
MARCH 26, 1999 (202) 225-3664
http://veterans.house.gov

House Budget Increase

Saves Veterans From Clinton/Gore Cuts



WASHINGTON, D.C. –- Congressman Bob Stump called passage of the House budget resolution for fiscal year 2000 "a great victory for veterans."

Stump (R-AZ), chairman of the House Committee on Veterans’ Affairs, praised Budget Committee Chairman John Kasich (R-OH) for agreeing to an "unprecedented" $1.1 billion increase over the President’s recommendations at a time when veterans needed it the most. The Clinton/Gore VA budget was opposed by the entire veterans’ community and shunned even by Democrats. Nearly all parties agreed the Clinton/Gore budget seriously threatened the quality of VA health care and would not even keep pace with inflation.

"When we made the VA a cabinet-level department we thought veterans would have the president’s ear," Chairman Stump said, "It certainly wasn’t the case in the budget the White House sent to us this year. There was a spending wish list for some 70 programs in the State of the Union speech in January, but nothing for veterans."

"As historic as this increase is, I would have liked an even higher figure," said Stump, who had asked for $1.9 billion in additional spending, "We could have gotten it, too, with more of the bipartisanship we usually have on veterans’ issues. But I’m encouraged by the fact that the Senate budget includes even more for veterans. That makes it possible to build on what we did in the House."

Stump said the House budget would prevent VA health care personnel employee layoffs, and the closure of needed programs and facilities threatened by the Clinton/Gore budget. He said it would permit increased funding for long-term care and treatment of the anticipated increase of hepatitis C among veterans.

"We made it clear we weren’t going to balance the budget on the backs of veterans," Stump said, "We also made it clear that we weren’t going to cheat future veterans, today’s men and women in uniform, by gutting the defense budget to boost spending on veterans. That’s robbing Peter to pay Paul. What the House did last night keeps us on track to balance the budget while doing what’s right for veterans. I’m proud of that, and glad for veterans."

"As historic as this increase is, I would have liked an even higher figure," said Stump, who had asked for $1.9 billion in additional spending,

Things were bad enough then that they needed more money to fix Clinton/Gore military budget raiding.....Poor old Bush had his hands full from his first day in office....


VA Official Calls Cuts in Clinton's Vet Budget "Staggering"
Smith continues fight for Central Jersey veterans


Washington - The regional director of the Clinton Administration's Veterans Administration said that if the President's budget was implemented, there would be Asubstantial loss," and the effects would be "staggering" and "fairly draconian."

Rep. Chris Smith (R-NJ), Vice Chairman of the House Veterans' Affairs Committee, questioned top VA officials at a Congressional hearing on veterans health care. Smith has been fighting to block proposed cuts in veterans health care services and has been working for the restoration and protection of a number of services at the Brick clinic in Ocean County.

"After today's Veterans' Affairs Health Subcommittee hearing, we are now to the point where the Clinton Administration's own lieutenants are admitting that their boss's budget would not be good for veterans," said Smith following the hearing.

James Farsetta, Director of the Veterans Integrated Service Network Three (VISN 3) and Dr. Thomas Garthwaite, the VA's Deputy Under Secretary for Health answered Congressman Smith's questions on the impact Clinton's Fiscal Year 2000 budget would have on veterans health care in New Jersey. VISN 3 includes VA health care services in parts of New Jersey and New York -- making Farsetta in charge of Central and Northern Jersey's health care services for veterans. Farsetta made his strong comments about the $963 million shortfall in what the VA requested for health care services and what Clinton has proposed for next year.

"New Jersey has over 713,000 veterans -- 60,000 of whom reside in Ocean County," Smith stated. "The Brick clinic alone cares for an average of 40,000 patient visits per year. Specialty services need to be provided for these Central Jersey veterans."

Director Farsetta said that the Brick clinic Areflects the direction the VA is moving in," and that the clinic was "efficient." That not withstanding, Deputy Under Secretary Garthwaite stated that the cuts to the region would present Areal challenges" and are "out of proportion."

"The message is out that veterans need and deserve quality health care services in Central Jersey," Smith said. "It is encouraging that top VA brass in Washington and New Jersey feel that the Administration's budget is a bad deal for veterans. Now we need to ensure that the proposed cuts by their boss never see the light of day."
 
Can't afford the rates?

Last I checked he took responsibility and was making changes.


Dem's have to pounce on everything they can to show the American public that they are still the partisan A-holes they were.And it looks like they're doing a good job of it.
 
I'm sure if you looked deep enough you'll find a majority of this debacle was a result of the Clinton years of gutting the military.

I believe (as I have no empirical data) that the decline of support for Federal Hospitals (like mental institutions and VA) was instituted/initiated by POTUS Reagan. We now have nut cases living on the streets (or running for president… 😛 ) and Vets getting substandard health care.

Can’t blame it all on Ronnie, because the Congress and Senate had to approve it and the public did not care. :down:

B) UT

Next Venture------Road King :up:
 
I'm sure if you looked deep enough you'll find a majority of this debacle was a result of the Clinton years of gutting the military.


Dell...

If you look over the TOTALITY of the Clinton years, you'll find that funding for the VA Hospital system increased dramatically and that quality of care also improved. In fact, members of congress (from both parties), earlier this decade cited some of the changes at VA hospitals as models for the private sector when it comes to becoming more efficient and delivering better care. The area that is most often cited, I believe, is the introduction of electronic charts and othe ways to reduce or eliminate cumbersome (and expensive) paperwork.

***ALSO*** It's important for everyone to note that Walter Reed is NOT a VA hospital. Walter Reed is run by DoD. Different budget. Different management. Different operation entirely. Plus, remember that Walter Reed was targeted for closure on the last BRAC list. Bush came out in favor. Guess he figured that our troops wouldn't need it. Oops.
 
***ALSO*** It's important for everyone to note that Walter Reed is NOT a VA hospital. Walter Reed is run by DoD. Different budget. Different management. Different operation entirely. Plus, remember that Walter Reed was targeted for closure on the last BRAC list. Bush came out in favor. Guess he figured that our troops wouldn't need it. Oops.
My oh my...then it was subject totally to the clinton/gore raping the military thing if it was under DOD :lol:
 
My oh my...then it was subject totally to the clinton/gore raping the military thing if it was under DOD :lol:
And don't forget....nobody supports our able bodied troops more than George W. ONce they lose a limb however, they are expendable.
 
I believe (as I have no empirical data) that the decline of support for Federal Hospitals (like mental institutions and VA) was instituted/initiated by POTUS Reagan. We now have nut cases living on the streets (or running for president… 😛 ) and Vets getting substandard health care.

Can’t blame it all on Ronnie, because the Congress and Senate had to approve it and the public did not care. :down:

B) UT

Next Venture------Road King :up:
Whoa....hold the phone......I believe it was from legal action instituted by our Communist legal faction,ACLU that put the wackos on the street....
 
Does anyone have any sources on any of this? I'll try and lok when I am at work today (I think it will be a slow day) but all of this sounds very strange.

I do find it interesting that no one (Local and Dell) has commented on the fact that it took Bush 6 weeks to clear out 3 hours on his schedule to visit the troops injured fighting in Iran/Afganistan to bring freedom to the heathens.
 
Does anyone have any sources on any of this? I'll try and lok when I am at work today (I think it will be a slow day) but all of this sounds very strange.

I do find it interesting that no one (Local and Dell) has commented on the fact that it took Bush 6 weeks to clear out 3 hours on his schedule to visit the troops injured fighting in Iran/Afganistan to bring freedom to the heathens.
Must have been busy fixing the VA hospital mess that his trusted subordinates stuck up his ass.

ACLU filed lawsuits back in the 70's at state and federal levels against "putting people away" in institutions and as a result,most of your homeless are mentally ill ex-patients...good or bad...your guess is as good as mine.
 

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