What's Next

[USA320Pilot]

What's Next

Dec. 23: CWA finishes voting on the new contract.

Jan. 3: If the CWA TA is rejected, the court will hear CWA arguments to defend its position against the company's S.1113 motion.

Jan. 5: AFA finishes voting on the Tentative Agreement (TA). If the TA is rejected, the court will hear AFA arguments to prevent "imposition" the same day as the vote results, which should be available around 10:00 a.m.

Jan. 6: Bankruptcy judge expected to rule on request to throw out labor contracts per the S.1113 motion and slash retiree pensions and health care per the S.1114 motion.

Jan. 14: Airline's permission to use ATSB funds expire and management must negotiate new agreement with the key creditor. Reports indicate the ATSB will permit the company to continue to use the guaranteed funds, provided the company obtains its target cost cuts from all stakeholders.

Jan. 14: Airline must find $100 million investment to keep key financing deal in place. As with the new GE agreement, it is likely a new creditor will require the company to reach its target cost cuts prior to the airline receiving any new liquidity.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[JayBrian]

On CNBC this morning (Neil Cavuto show) Jack Welch (former GE CEO) said US Airways stock is a buy. Hopefully he knows something from GE's analysis of US Airways.


Jay

 

[delldude]

you forgot jan 7th...iam crazed mech and related tell judge to shove it and walk off jobs...shutting down airline...

 

[SpinDoc]

you forgot jan 7th...iam crazed mech and related tell judge to shove it and walk off jobs...shutting down airline...

[post="229808"][/post]​

SpinDoc:

And as soon as they walk off the job, they
will be terminated and replaced. Excellent
logic from you Dell.

 

[AP Tech]

I tend to doubt the company wil be able to replace all the mechanics immediately, unless the company wishes to violate their own MPP. It takes time for training (3wks for signing off the airbus), and I doubt the FAA would let the company get away with what they did in 92 during a 1 week strike....

 

[deano]

SpinDoc:

And as soon as they walk off the job, they
will be terminated and replaced. Excellent
logic from you Dell.

[post="229824"][/post]​

Let’s analyze this statement:

What you are saying is you have a critical patient on life support hooked up to numerous machines to sustain the patient. All of a sudden the power goes out along with all the back up emergency power and the machines that are sustaining the patient stop working....So a mad crazy insane rush ensues to get power up again and it is accomplished in a record time, EXCEPT the patient was just too weak to exist for even one nanosecond on his own, and he dies....This is U that very patient .

You have a better chance at hitting the powerball tonight then replacing the mechanics and live to laugh about it....get real, real fast Mr. Spin.


Curt

 

[LGA / 037]

On CNBC this morning (Neil Cavuto show) Jack Welch (former GE CEO) said US Airways stock is a buy. Hopefully he knows something from GE's analysis of US Airways.
Jay

[post="229806"][/post]​

Would that be a borderline SEC violation?

 

[D M G]

you forgot jan 7th...iam crazed mech and related tell judge to shove it and walk off jobs...shutting down airline...

[post="229808"][/post]​

IAM Fleet will be walking out with them. No way are they going to vote to eliminate several thousand jobs.

 

[aafsc]

SpinDoc:

And as soon as they walk off the job, they
will be terminated and replaced. Excellent
logic from you Dell.

[post="229824"][/post]​

Just like they did at EAL? And the economic enviroment was 100% better at the time.

 

[Winglet]

The choice for the IAM will to go down quietly, like Lakefield wants . . . . or go down fighting. Not much of a choice that Lakefield is offering.

Lakefield and Siegel should go down in corporate history as a case study in personal greed and/or incompetence.

 

[SpinDoc]

Let’s analyze this statement:

What you are saying is you have a critical patient on life support hooked up to numerous machines to sustain the patient. All of a sudden the power goes out along with all the back up emergency power and the machines that are sustaining the patient stop working....So a mad crazy insane rush ensues to get power up again and it is accomplished in a record time, EXCEPT the patient was just too weak to exist for even one nanosecond on his own, and he dies....This is U that very patient .

You have a better chance at hitting the powerball tonight then replacing the mechanics and live to laugh about it....get real, real fast Mr. Spin.
Curt

[post="229829"][/post]​

Cav:

I have a source who tells me the company is
working on contingency contracts with
outsourcing vendors and they will be ready
if and when ANY of the union groups decides
to walk out.

 

[aafsc]

Cav:

I have a source who tells me the company is
working on contingency contracts with
outsourcing vendors and they will be ready
if and when ANY of the union groups decides
to walk out.

[post="229925"][/post]​

I would think it would be difficult to train a couple thousand people to work the ramp in CLT and PHL, not to mention the US cities of LGA, DCA, and BOS. First, they would have to put all these people through background checks and drug test them. These are mandatory laws that take time. Assuming they could do this, then they would have to issue airport IDs, and then train them in a classroom for a minumum of a few days because they have to go through hazardous materials and dangerous goods training as mandated by the FAA. Then once they get out on the ramp, they would have to learn how to work out there. I remember when we hired people and they came out on the ramp; they were clueless about what to do. They had to be hand led where to take the bags; and this was just with a few new hires. Could you imagine doing this with hundreds of people? It is called the learning curve; and before a whole new set of employees get the hang of it a substantial amount of time would have been spent ( along with lost bags and damaged aircraft). US would more than likely not make it through this time period. Given the low pay that these contractors pay there will be a high turnover; especially with the cold winter months coming. Would you work out in the PHL,PIT, BOS, DCA, LGA, or CLT winter for crap pay?

 

[700UW]

And dont forget the pesky FAA intervention, you can outsource all the heavy maintenance you want, it is line maintenance that will shut the place down.

 

[Pacemaker]

Jan 15 - ALPA enters into another round of concessionary negotiations with management to make up for what they're not going to get from the IAM.

 

[TheLazarusman]

IAM Fleet will be walking out with them. No way are they going to vote to eliminate several thousand jobs.

[post="229833"][/post]​

Fleet Service is not going to vote to outsource one job; much less four thousand. We still believe in solidarity. Even though the mechanics have not neccessarily always supported us, we support them. All union groups should stand together.