Why would the APFA and TWU want to revote? What would be gained by going through all of it again? Revoting won''t instill trust between unions and management. There isn''t trust, has never been trust and until people are ready to discuss issues without emotionalism or feeling but purely on the business objectives there will never be trust. While Carty and his executive team should have held the union''s hands and those of their accounting firms in pointing out the SERP and retention bonuses, that didn''t happen. Get over it. They gave up the retention bonuses. What more would you want? Their complete resignations? Then who runs the airline? The dedicated employees?
The choices that were voted on last week remain the same. Either take the best that has been negotiated in the TA''s or risk EVERYTHING in bankruptcy. And as has already been pointed out in earlier discussions, BK Judges are not friends of labor. Ask the unions at UA and USAir. Their employees would all have been better off agreeing to the concessions rather than avoiding the truth. A disparate set of circumstances got us all where we are today. Not one single act or one single individual created this mess and it is going to take everyone working together to get out of it! And you say you want Bob Crandall back? Only a few short years ago you couldn''t wait for him to leave and worked diligently (and unsuccessfully) at times for his removal. Now he was the best thing since sliced bread? Fickle, fickle, fickle. Forgive Carty for his misstep and move forward.
And the reason that Southwest Airline''s is not down in the trenches with the majors is not because their unions and their management have trust but because they at least agree to work together to solve the problems. Galley Gossip from the APFA members is woefully inaccurate as a source of information and unfortunately while they may want to preserve their professionlism all they will end up doing is taking down the airline. And quite honestly I am glad I am not an APFA member if they do revote and overturn last week''s outcome and by doing so jeopardize the pilot''s pensions!
I''ll keep flying AA for as long as AA flies but my level of respect for the union employees has dropped to an all time low. I don''t think I have ever read or heard so much whining and finger pointing from so called professionals as what has occured in the last 10 days. Either you want to be part of AA''s reconstruction and move forward or you don''t. And if you don''t why don''t you just quietly step aside and quit? As a top tier AADVANTAGE member we are tired of hearing your spin. We at least want to see AA keep flying.
The choices that were voted on last week remain the same. Either take the best that has been negotiated in the TA''s or risk EVERYTHING in bankruptcy. And as has already been pointed out in earlier discussions, BK Judges are not friends of labor. Ask the unions at UA and USAir. Their employees would all have been better off agreeing to the concessions rather than avoiding the truth. A disparate set of circumstances got us all where we are today. Not one single act or one single individual created this mess and it is going to take everyone working together to get out of it! And you say you want Bob Crandall back? Only a few short years ago you couldn''t wait for him to leave and worked diligently (and unsuccessfully) at times for his removal. Now he was the best thing since sliced bread? Fickle, fickle, fickle. Forgive Carty for his misstep and move forward.
And the reason that Southwest Airline''s is not down in the trenches with the majors is not because their unions and their management have trust but because they at least agree to work together to solve the problems. Galley Gossip from the APFA members is woefully inaccurate as a source of information and unfortunately while they may want to preserve their professionlism all they will end up doing is taking down the airline. And quite honestly I am glad I am not an APFA member if they do revote and overturn last week''s outcome and by doing so jeopardize the pilot''s pensions!
I''ll keep flying AA for as long as AA flies but my level of respect for the union employees has dropped to an all time low. I don''t think I have ever read or heard so much whining and finger pointing from so called professionals as what has occured in the last 10 days. Either you want to be part of AA''s reconstruction and move forward or you don''t. And if you don''t why don''t you just quietly step aside and quit? As a top tier AADVANTAGE member we are tired of hearing your spin. We at least want to see AA keep flying.
14 PM FA Mikey wrote: 
