Will the mechanics give the IAM the boot?

sabre

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yesterday, the Southwest mechanics had enough of the Teamsters and replaced them overnight.
The, stuck in the last century, Beaurocratic AFLCIO unions never learn.
 
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sabre

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yes they are. Been back in the AFLCIO for over 10 years now. Why do you think the Teamsters can't endorse Republicans anymore?

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Sabre- I stand corrected, seems like just awhile back the Teamsters wer considered persona non grata within the AFL-CIO. I never heard they kissed and made-up. Well I did learn something today. Thanks for the clarifacation.
 

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It sure would be nice to see the iam kicked of the property and see another union come in.
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I asked this on the AA board, and I'll ask it here - how would that benefit you today?
 

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It sure would be nice to see the iam kicked of the property and see another union come in.
 

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On 1/25/2003 4:50:34 PM KCFlyer wrote:

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On 1/25/2003 4:40:41 PM cat 111 wrote:

It sure would be nice to see the iam kicked of the property and see another union come in.
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I asked this on the AA board, and I'll ask it here - how would that benefit you today?
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KCflyer, I believe you know that replacing the IAM will not benefit the mechanics TODAY,, Our wage and benefit rates are pretty much set till-2008..THIS- is the date that has to be looked at. The biggest difference between the 2 unions is that the IAM is a INDUSTRIAL union while AMFA is a TRADE union..The A&P technician has been subsidizing other members of the union for way too long. I realize it is law that the -related- have to be included with the mechanics TODAY,,,There is only one union that has tried to get this changed,,AMFA..I have heard they are continuing to work on changing the law.. I do not want to sound like a -elitist-but I think everyone ought to go into negotiations on their own merits..ALPA represents pilots and pilots ONLY,,,AFA represents F/A'S and F/A'S ONLY..
 

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On 1/26/2003 8:07:50 AM PineyBob wrote:

The representation of narrow work groups will IMHO continue to allow management to divide and conquer as they did this time. I won't matter which acronym represents you as long as you are fragmented. The argument that jobs are to differnt to be represented by one union are old and tired. Work is work and a single union with a single united negotiating position would make it far more difficult for the Jerry Glass's of the world to pit you against each other. "Remember Unite We Stand, Divided We Fall"
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I disagree: Too specious. Too many variables to nail down what caused what. "Fragmentation" causes "didvide and conquer" which in turn begets some sort of calamity. Maybe, could be. Could be not. The present big tent "strength in numbers" theory doesn't seem to be doing so hot either, it would seem. -- Frankly, IMO, it's the same strength in numbers, industrial union mentality that's getting old and tired.
 

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Frankly I am ready now for another union to come in. It is a shame when people do not want to file a grievance because you will never hear back about it since it appears they throw them all away. It appears to some that this is a company union and that people are being paid to be in the companies pocket. We have no union now and we need one.
 

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On 1/27/2003 7:39:44 AM retread wrote:

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Cleaners making 70,000, mechs pushing back a/c, yeah you should get rid of the IAM. Try looking at your job description, then look in the want ads and see how bad you guys have it. I know, it is the pilots fault.
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retread,, Tell us about YOUR job description,, So I can worry about YOUR job as much as you worry about MY job.
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It sure would be nice to see the iam kicked of the property and see another union come in.
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Cleaners making 70,000, mechs pushing back a/c, yeah you should get rid of the IAM. Try looking at your job description, then look in the want ads and see how bad you guys have it. I know, it is the pilots fault.
 
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It sure would be nice to see the iam kicked of the property and see another union come in.
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Cleaners making 70,000, mechs pushing back a/c, yeah you should get rid of the IAM. Try looking at your job description, then look in the want ads and see how bad you guys have it. I know, it is the pilots fault.
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retread,, Tell us about YOUR job description,, So I can worry about YOUR job as much as you worry about MY job. [img src='http://www.usaviation.com/idealbb/images/smilies/6.gif'] [img src='http://www.usaviation.com/idealbb/images/smilies/9.gif']
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Since the pilot group is carrying your inflated salary, I do worry about your job description. I already know mine.
 
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Maybe when retread gets bumped down to his little RJ he will finally be worth his pay !!!
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No, I am sure if I am making one more dollar than you then I am overpaid. I should of skipped all my training cost and cleaned airplanes. Ah!, the life of socialism.
 

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