American Airlines plans to ‘rebank’ its Dallas/Fort Worth Airport hub this spring
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Oh no, customs will be outrages!!!
Lines for the lady's room will be like 1/2 time or intermission.
Food on the run, if you can get it.
For fleet service, hunker down on equipent!! You will be endlessly looking for equipent like never seen before.
Aircraft that used to about roll up to a gate in MIA in a reasonable amount of time, get a good book going.
Lines for the lady's room will be like 1/2 time or intermission.
Food on the run, if you can get it.
For fleet service, hunker down on equipent!! You will be endlessly looking for equipent like never seen before.
Aircraft that used to about roll up to a gate in MIA in a reasonable amount of time, get a good book going.
WorldTraveler
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AA's operational reliability and competitiveness will deteriorate. You can't bank an 800 flt/day without adding a lot of time to the schedule or having much lower operational reliability.
Add time to the schedule and connections are not sold as effectively. Don't add it and the operational reliability will look worse and worse - which competitors will use to gain market share in key AA markets.
I'll be happy to follow-up after the fact and admit if I am wrong but banking hubs as big as AA operates are clearly an HP sized idea for a global sized airline.
Add time to the schedule and connections are not sold as effectively. Don't add it and the operational reliability will look worse and worse - which competitors will use to gain market share in key AA markets.
I'll be happy to follow-up after the fact and admit if I am wrong but banking hubs as big as AA operates are clearly an HP sized idea for a global sized airline.
Anyone who has parked in the penalty boxes while waiting for a gate at DFW (or ORD) under AA's rolling hub model for more than 10 years now (and it happens a lot) knows that this is a disaster in the making.
And I agree with boston: unless Parker goes on a spending spree to buy more pushback tractors, more baggage tugs and carts and more belt/scissor loaders (and hire a lot more people to drive them and do the heavy lifting plus many more gate agents), this isn't going to be pretty.
And I agree with boston: unless Parker goes on a spending spree to buy more pushback tractors, more baggage tugs and carts and more belt/scissor loaders (and hire a lot more people to drive them and do the heavy lifting plus many more gate agents), this isn't going to be pretty.
robbedagain
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agree with you FWAA and boston. Itll be interesting to see how it works out Didn't MIA go to rolling banks late last yr? and if so how is that working out?
FWAAA said:
If this banking strategy can work in the disaster known as mia it can probably work anywhere. And fyi, dfw has pushback tractors on almost every single gate and typically more than enough other equipment. And rumor is that they're in the midst of hiring 300 additional ground personnel
If it works and if management can demonstrate higher unit revenues at DFW, then I'll join WT in admitting error.
Another cost to re-banking the hubs is longer sit-times at the spokes. With the rolling hubs, there was no motivation to sit on the ground at the out-stations; the motivation was to turn the plane and get it back to the hub.
One of the major media articles published when Parker and Kirby first announced the re-banking (just days after the merger closed) pointed this out and said that there could be hour or two sits at some spokes to coordinate the arrival time of the return flight with the proper bank. That has the potential to add inefficiencies that will be suffered by the pilots and FAs as they sit at the spokes. Those groups are never very happy about wasting an hour or two on the ground when they could be flying and earning pay.
Another cost to re-banking the hubs is longer sit-times at the spokes. With the rolling hubs, there was no motivation to sit on the ground at the out-stations; the motivation was to turn the plane and get it back to the hub.
One of the major media articles published when Parker and Kirby first announced the re-banking (just days after the merger closed) pointed this out and said that there could be hour or two sits at some spokes to coordinate the arrival time of the return flight with the proper bank. That has the potential to add inefficiencies that will be suffered by the pilots and FAs as they sit at the spokes. Those groups are never very happy about wasting an hour or two on the ground when they could be flying and earning pay.
Aircraft maintenance will be a nightmare. The pilots will be writing up legitimate items coming from the overnight outstations. The planes will be pushed back to the pads to be worked so the next bank can have the gates and by the end of the day there will be no one to work them because they plan on laying off 200 mechanics at DFW. It might look good on the bean counters paper but this is a disaster in the making. The worst thing about this is the cost of the mechanic moving to an outstation and then moving back because of a brainiac idea from a 23 year old consultant failed.
AdAstraPerAspera
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Haven't other airlines like United rebanked their hubs?
eolesen
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There was a pretty long write-up by Brett Snyder in PlaneBusiness back on November 19 regarding MIA, and AA gave him access to Robert Isom, Marilyn Devoe, and a few other key folks from AA. This was *not* the brainchild of a 23 year old consultant. This came from inside. And it works.
AA hiring 250 at ORD, check out Chicago tribune from dec 18th, y'll are so negative. AA Miami moving records amount of pax through hub. This isn't the AA of Carty or Arpey, have a little faith, it's not good to have so much hate for something.FWAAA said:
how long before this turns into a anti TWU thread?
AA did the bank system in the 90s, most mechs are still working from that time period, you don't become less competent with more experience. The only thing that has changed is the attitude of the mechs, a decade plus of being taken advantage of will kill motivation. A contract with more carrot and less stick would be refreshing.Crapdog said:
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