American the spoiler

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story here A scary thought, but one long predicted by FWAA


American Airlines, the world’s largest airline by total passengers transported, could be a threat to a Delta deal, particularly if it tied-up with Northwest, the banker said. Having taken a hard look at Northwest “years agoâ€, the banker speculated that American could attempt to bust the deal by making a competing offer if and when the deal is announced. Further, a second industry banker said Northwest did not agree to the merger with American in 2000 as the offer did not reflect the full market premium to Northwest’s share price at that time.

Moreover, the first banker noted that American has more practical experience with mergers than any other airline, which could make the top carrier “more courageous†under the right circumstances.

The banker characterized Northwest as American’s logical merger partner, and speculated that it could make a play to cement its position as a ubiquitous business-class carrier and ensure it is not short-changed during consolidation. Other potential combinations could attract the attention of antitrust regulators and are less likely, the banker said. He explained that an American/Delta merger would have significant overlaps in the Southeast; while an American and Continental tie-up could be problematic because of their Texas hubs in Dallas and Houston. Lastly, he noted that United and American would have a roughly 60% market share in the Chicago market because they are number one and two, respectively, making a tie-up unlikely.

To keep its options open to consolidation, American could proactively disrupt a Delta and Northwest combination to safeguard its position as an industry leader. Should Delta choose Northwest as a merger partner, United would likely respond by pursuing Continental, in which case the only legacy carriers not hitched would be American and US Airways - an unlikely pairing because the latter is a low cost, low-fare carrier.

American is likely thinking ahead on the probable tie-ups, the banker suggested. If United merges with Delta or Continental, American will be faced with a “very, very serious problem;†namely that its hegemony with the business traveler will be threatened, the banker said. He added that a United and Continental tie up would put American in hot water, not just because the aggregate market share of the combined entity would be bigger, but because the new entity would be an enterprise that would practically have a hub in the major population centers around the perimeter of the US. This, he said, would be a very effective kind of competitor for American.

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Not only does AA have more unrestricted cash than any other airline, it's paid down a few billion in debt over the last two years. Pension plans are now fully funded (96% as of 12/31) and interest rates have recently dropped like rocks. AMR's market cap is a billion or so less than NW, DL or UA, but its cash and borrowing capacity (at recently lowered rates) still places AA in the drivers' seat. If it sits out this round, it won't be because AA can't afford to do a deal. And with the beating the NW FAs have taken in the paychecks, they'd probably be willing to accept a staple just to see their pay restored to APFA rates.
 
And with the beating the NW FAs have taken in the paychecks, they'd probably be willing to accept a staple just to see their pay restored to APFA rates.

Not likely at all. The FA's at NW recently said they would not go along with any merger without their pay rate being renegotiated "BEFORE" a merger would take place.

Go to the NW board on this web site and take a poll on weather they would accept a "staple" on the AA list. IMO you won't get one FA would would accept that.
 
Not likely at all. The FA's at NW recently said they would not go along with any merger without their pay rate being renegotiated "BEFORE" a merger would take place.

Go to the NW board on this web site and take a poll on weather they would accept a "staple" on the AA list. IMO you won't get one FA would would accept that.

Yea, we have all seen their rhetoric../ er hum.....resolve :lol:
 
Not likely at all. The FA's at NW recently said they would not go along with any merger without their pay rate being renegotiated "BEFORE" a merger would take place.

Go to the NW board on this web site and take a poll on weather they would accept a "staple" on the AA list. IMO you won't get one FA would would accept that.


That's smart, if they actually have the power to block a merger, should one be seriously proposed. Of course, AA has a horrid history of mergers and acquisitions with most all the assets acquired being gone within a year or two with the employees staying. Hence the high degree of resistance to this nonsense by the AA unions. A NW deal would be a true merger and not a firesale acquisition like TWA. Therefor there's no way that a staple could be rationally proposed. That said, you can bet that the combined airline would be smaller than the sum of the two parts alone. Somebody's going to lose their jobs while the execs walk away with their pockets stuffed, their mortgages paid, their perks locked in for life, and with fat bonuses to boot.
 
Well, Bond-McKaskill pretty much rules out a staple without arbitration... which doesn't mean there couldn't be a staple, but NWA doesn't come close to being a failing carrier right now, either.

Reality is that Skyteam partners AF and KL have more money to throw around than AMR does. If they want NW & DL to merge, it's going to happen. AMR will just drive up the price a bit.


As for the "renegade union".... NWA did everyone at AMR a favor by offering the striking AMFA workers a buyout. They're now off the recall lists, and the ratio of NWA AMT's and AMR AMT's wouldn't come close to forcing a representation election.

One thing's for certain -- it would be interesting to see if the number of malcontents at NWA who want to dump AMFA would wind up cancelling out the votes of the malcontents at AMR who want to dump the TWU...
 
Announced today................DL adding CO to the "list".

THIS is a beautiful thing(here's why)

1. There are rumors that DL/NW has already hit a "snag"(Oberstar anyone ????)
2. UAL workers are in NO MOOD for a takeover by DL
3. The CO news, is the WORST NEWS "merger MAINIAC" Glenn Tilton could have heard !!!
4. All it's going to take is just 1 "hook up" (DL/CO) to start the merger "merry-go-round" in motion, and THAT sure in HEL* does NOT mean UAL/NW !!!

In this game of "Texas hold em' ", I LOVE the Cards...$$$$$$$$...AA's holding !!!!!!!!!!
 
Not only does AA have more unrestricted cash than any other airline, it's paid down a few billion in debt over the last two years. Pension plans are now fully funded (96% as of 12/31) and interest rates have recently dropped like rocks. AMR's market cap is a billion or so less than NW, DL or UA, but its cash and borrowing capacity (at recently lowered rates) still places AA in the drivers' seat. If it sits out this round, it won't be because AA can't afford to do a deal. And with the beating the NW FAs have taken in the paychecks, they'd probably be willing to accept a staple just to see their pay restored to APFA rates.


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FWAAA,
I'm starting to get that "BIG RED warm fuzzy feelin' again" :up: :up: :up: :up:
 
Not as a standalone law, but it was attached to the Omnibus Spending Bill in a late night back-room deal that nobody had a chance to derail. I haven't heard about that being removed from the final bill that W signed...
 
Well, Bond-McKaskill pretty much rules out a staple without arbitration... which doesn't mean there couldn't be a staple, but NWA doesn't come close to being a failing carrier right now, either.

Ok, so no staple. Still, as UAL_TECH mentioned - the NW FAs aren't the scariest organized workers out there.
 
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