AZ boycott over immigration law

Aug 20, 2002
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http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/immigration-law-cost-arizona-star-game-push-boycott/story?id=10511724

Will Immigration Law Cost Arizona All-Star Game?
Groups Are Trying to Boycott Arizona Over Its Controversial New Immigration Law

Companies have been pulling conferences out of Arizona resorts while others have suggested consumers shun companies, such as US Airways, that are based in the state and have yet to condemn the the law

Wonder if the boycott will spread far enough to affect US. Note to Mods and all
This thread is not for the discussion of the law itself. Just if the boycott of AZ business will affect US.

I would be surprised if people boycott the airline. One thing is pulling an convention out of the state as several have done. Another to not use an airline simply because it it headquartered there. But who knows, it might happen.
 
I would be surprised if people boycott the airline. One thing is pulling an convention out of the state as several have done. Another to not use an airline simply because it it headquartered there. But who knows, it might happen.

I wouldn't. It already suffers from other issues with fliers so it is an easy target for folks who are serious about boycotting and willing to be somewhat inconvenienced. Folks who simply want to chirp "boycott" but are unwilling inconvenienced by their choices will obviously have no real effect on the airline. So the question becomes just how upset are people and what are they really willing to do about it.

The really ironic part is the Arizona government is owned by the GOP. They hardly ever even discuss issues with Dems, rather they caucus and then "make-it-so". So the pro-business political party has potentially screwed the business they profess to love.

SparrowHawk, are you around to comment on what I said?
 
I wouldn't. It already suffers from other issues with fliers so it is an easy target for folks who are serious about boycotting and willing to be somewhat inconvenienced. Folks who simply want to chirp "boycott" but are unwilling inconvenienced by their choices will obviously have no real effect on the airline. So the question becomes just how upset are people and what are they really willing to do about it.

The really ironic part is the Arizona government is owned by the GOP. They hardly ever even discuss issues with Dems, rather they caucus and then "make-it-so". So the pro-business political party has potentially screwed the business they profess to love.

SparrowHawk, are you around to comment on what I said?

I don't believe we will see a serious dent. Most of our customer base these days think with their wallet. "Whats the cheapest" oh US Airways .... I wouldn't be surprised if half our "Kettle" customers even know where HQ is. Its not like people research HQ operations before purchasing a ticket.

For those that choose to boycott a company based simply on the fact that one's HQ is in a certain state, is not surprising but unlikely. However, I feel AZ will suffer in other areas like tourism. But it's still one of the best golfing arenas is the country.
 
With Aeromexico cutting back flights its possible demand might increase on some of US Airways Mexico destinations. People still need to get from point A to point B and will find a way to do it.

http://tinyurl.com/25kmlwq
 
All over California, cities and the CA State government are discussing a possible boycott of everything Arizona, which I assume would include US Airways (USAir for short). I also assume there will be plenty of pressure placed on private business to boycott Arizona in every possible way as well. I'd bet it costs USAir a few million in ticket revenue from just this state. There are activists saying that the boycott of Arizona will make the anti-apartheid South Africa boycotts of the 1980s look like child's play by comparison.
 
Speaking strictly for myself I think I'll make plans to offset the boycott and spend some hard earned tourist dollars in AZ.

In fact I applaud AZ for bringing the immigration "issue" to a head and to the forefront where it needs to be. The law itself is unadulterated POOP as it in effect blames immigrants. If we throw out all of the "Immigrants" then only the Indians (Native Americans for the PC crowd) will be left, as everyone who isn't aboriginal or descendants of, came from someplace else. Below is the Libertarian Party weekly message on the topic:

April 26, 2010

Dear Friend of Liberty,

The recent legislation in Arizona has put immigration back in the news.

The Libertarian Party has a long history of defending immigration. Our website has an article discussing immigration. I think that if there's a problem with massive illegal immigration, then one of the best solutions is to make legal immigration easier.

From an economic point of view, immigrants are an asset, not a liability. Business owners usually understand that, but politicians often either don't understand or don't care. In an environment of fear, which is where many politicians seem to want to keep us, they use immigrants (both legal and illegal) as scapegoats so they can duck blame for problems caused by too much government. Republican George W. Bush gave us the enormously expensive Medicare prescription entitlement. Republican Senator John McCain famously put his 2008 presidential campaign on hold to rush back to Washington to bail out failed banks and businesses. When times are tough, focusing on immigrants helps distract from these homegrown threats to our economy.

Perhaps I have a soft spot in my heart for immigrants and foreigners. I've traveled extensively and lived overseas. I worked for six months in South Africa and was welcomed by blacks and whites into their communities. I've spent over six months of my life traveling throughout Mexico. Recently having lived in Texas, I've met and worked with a lot of Mexican nationals who were in Texas working hard in the construction industry. I can imagine that if I'd been born in Mexico or Central America, and the American immigration laws were so convoluted, I'd have found my way around them one way or another.

I realize immigration, legal and illegal, is a controversial issue both for Americans in general and for Libertarians. Obviously, some immigrants take advantage of our welfare system. (That's one more reason to get rid of government welfare.) And some immigrants commit violent crimes. (That's one more reason to get rid of victimless crime laws that waste police effort and fill up our prisons with people who haven't hurt anyone.) However, those aren't good reasons to stop people from coming to America. America was founded by immigrants, many of whom were escaping economic and religious oppression. I think support for immigrants, many of whom are poor and honest, shows our humanitarian side to those who want to characterize Libertarians as uncaring individualists.

I'm also very concerned that the immigration debate will be used as an excuse to impose a National ID card. (Let me see your papers!)

Now is the time to stand up for liberty. We must not let the federal government use immigration restrictions as a sneaky way to crack down on all Americans and take away our freedoms.


Sincerely,

Wes Benedict
Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee

See this Cato study on the economic effects of immigration reform.

I'm highly doubtful that the boycott threat will have much impact in business terms. We have two options IMO as a nation. ONE is to aggressively enforce the current laws and deport those who are here illegally OR what I would preferr is a complete and total re-write of the current law into one that is fair and enforcable! Keeping mind that EVERYONE who is black, white or yellow came from someplace else in the world. Ijust don't like bleeding heart Liberal/Socialist maggots dictating to the rest of us how to live, breathe & think so I'll throw some tourist dollars at AZ. I don't like this law, however having visisted AZ many times and meeting people there I'm not at all surprised that this law was passed
 
http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/immigration-law-cost-arizona-star-game-push-boycott/story?id=10511724

Will Immigration Law Cost Arizona All-Star Game?
Groups Are Trying to Boycott Arizona Over Its Controversial New Immigration Law

Companies have been pulling conferences out of Arizona resorts while others have suggested consumers shun companies, such as US Airways, that are based in the state and have yet to condemn the the law

Wonder if the boycott will spread far enough to affect US. Note to Mods and all
This thread is not for the discussion of the law itself. Just if the boycott of AZ business will affect US.

I would be surprised if people boycott the airline. One thing is pulling an convention out of the state as several have done. Another to not use an airline simply because it it headquartered there. But who knows, it might happen.

I doubt many will boycott US Airways directly. I do believe it will impact AZ's tourist economy, which will hurt both US and WN.
 
I doubt many will boycott US Airways directly. I do believe it will impact AZ's tourist economy, which will hurt both US and WN.

Possibly, however as a tourist when you see bumper stickers that say "Vist Arizona and take someone home with you" I think the problem goes far beyond a single law. Saw that sticker 4 times outside of Kingman
 
well i don't know how things are going to go down ... but i for one hope that us airways does not renounce arizona .....

you know their calling for nation wide companies to renounce the state ....

let me tell all of you something , we are not racists here .... i wish people would understand the uniquie immigration problems we face in arizona ...
 
With Aeromexico cutting back flights its possible demand might increase on some of US Airways Mexico destinations. People still need to get from point A to point B and will find a way to do it.

http://tinyurl.com/25kmlwq

I would have to guess that Aeromexico is happy to have something to use as an excuse to bow out of PHX-MEX market, if they were making money, they wouldn't pull the flight on "principle" As for their other flights, AM has lost to US in several markets, they used to use TUS as their AZ base to HMO and GDL and GYM, they moved flights to PHX and just have/had MEX and HMO left.

Will it hurt US? No

Lots of sound and fury, but little light
 
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Actually I Commend the State of Arizona to ADDRESS the Problem (and YES it is a problem) of all the illegals that filter across the border. For the "politically Correct Crowd"........Screw You! When You are willing to increase Your Taxes to Pay for all these illegal entries, THEN WE Will Talk about what is FAIR/ Morally Correct. People will always have a need to travel from A-to-B and I highly doubt US or SW will see any residual effect because people are Shop on Price. People don't AVOID Delta, being a Southern based Carrier even knowing that KKK Clan meetings continue to be held, and I am sure many fat/obese people will STILL buy a ticket on Southwest even after their recent media fiasco. People need to CHILL OUT, Take Off their Rose Coloured Glasses, Put Down the ChoirBooks and R-e-a-l-i-s-e the "All About Me Generation" really has a hard time juggling their Ipod, Starbucks & multiple carryons while boarding let alone be Concerned with some silly arsced LAW that needs to be addressed anyways. Heck, most of them are texting anyways ,<lol>. GET A GRIP!
 
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Well it seems to have possibly started as far as US Airways is concerned.

Groups have called on people not to fly Tempe-based US Airways, rent trucks from Phoenix-based U-Haul or go to Suns and Diamondbacks games. A New York congressman and others are urging major league baseball to move the 2011 All Star Game out of Phoenix.

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