False Victory By The Twu

Bob Owens

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American Airlines
MAINTENANCE AND ENGINEERING CENTER
Mr. Robert Gless
International Representative
Transport Workers Union of America, AFL-CIO
1791 Hurstview Drive
Hurst, TX 76054
March 10, 2004
Intl TWU - 29d - Aircraft Maintenance Overseas
Dear Bobby,
This is to confirm our understanding regarding full and final settlement of the 29(d)
presidential grievance (M-2672-02) which addresses scheduled work performed at
stations located outside the United States.
The issue in this case involved American Airlines scheduling and performing aircraft
maintenance on the Company's aircraft at International stations rather than Domestic
stations staffed by AA/TWU represented Aviation Maintenance Technicians (AMTs).
In the interest of resolving this matter the Company is willing to commit to the following
on a prospective basis:
1. Scheduled "check" work: Continue to perform all "B" and "C" (MBV) checks at
the U.S. domestic stations with AA/TWU represented AMTs.
2. Scheduled "A" checks: Continue to perform all "A" checks at U.S. domestic
stations with AA/TWU represented AMTs, except for those "A" checks at an
International station that are required by the Federal Aviation Administration to allow
the aircraft to proceed to a Domestic station. Currently those are scheduled at LHR,
EZE, GYE, PTY and UIO.
3. With respect to Engineering Change Orders (ECO) and Fleet Campaign
Directives (FCD), Airworthiness Directives (AD) and Fleet Modifications, the
Company will commit to scheduling and having those accomplished within the
Domestic stations by AA /TWU represented AMTs, where they are staffed, so long
as
the Company has ample lead-time to schedule within the Domestic U.S. and the
time frame for completion allows the work to be scheduled within the domestic
United States. In the event that there is insufficient time, the Company will utilize the
available time of the aircraft at the International station to complete the necessary
work. The Company commits to notifying the International TWU prior to the
commencement of such work.
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International TWU
March 10, 2004
4. With respect to Special Items Cards (SIC), the Company will commit to scheduling and
having those accomplished within the Domestic stations by AA/TWU represented AMTs
where they are staffed, so long as the Company has ample lead time to schedule within
the domestic United States. In the event that there is insufficient time to complete
necessary work, SIC cards may be performed overseas but will not reduce the
frequency of Domestic U.S. SIC scheduling. The Company commits to notifying the
International TWU prior to the commencement of such work.
The above is the Company's good faith commitment to retain as much scheduled aircraft
maintenance work at TWU represented Domestic stations, while still maintaining the
flexibility needed to perform work overseas at stations staffed by AA Aircraft Maintenance
Technicians (not represented by the TWU). If the overseas requirements change, the
Company will discuss those changes with the International in an effort to seek a mutually
acceptable solution prior to implementing such a change. In both cases, it further supports
our commitment to keep aircraft maintenance work in-house, being performed by AA /TWU
represented AMTs.
Sincerely,
________________________
Danny Martinez
Vice President, Line Maintenance
Agreed to:
________________________
Robert Gless
International Representative
Transport Workers Union of America
cc: R. Reding
M&E Vice Presidents
J. Brundage
J. Little
G. Yingst
M. Tinsman
ER Principals
TWU WINS NEW RESTRICTIONS
ON FOREIGN MAINTENANCE

What did they win? NOTHING! Committ, try, attempt, nothing concrete and what happens if they violate it? What happens if they dont notify the union?

Line Stations and Bases Keep Work In-house
The TWU is the first union in the airline industry to win new restrictions on the
outsourcing of foreign maintenance. On March 10, 2004, the TWU settled a
grievance with American Airlines that requires that:
• All B-checks and C-checks be performed in-house by TWU members.


Oh really? And how many B and C checks were done by foreign woirkers prior to this victory? None. The fact is that many of these Foreign workers earn much more than we do with better benifits, more vacation, holidays and no union!

• All A-checks must be performed in the United States by TWU members
unless federal regulations require that work be performed overseas in
order that the aircraft continue to operate safely.


Isnt that the claim that we have heard all along as to why A checks were being done overseas?

This is a major victory for the TWU that benefits our members at line stations as
well as overhaul bases. While other airlines like Northwest and United are
farming out more and more maintenance overseas and domestically, the TWU is
protecting our membership by requiring that this work be performed in the U.S.
by TWU represented employees.

Actually nothing has changed. The critcal word that is missing throughout this whole settlement is "shall". Commit is a very weak, nearly unenforcable word, they could has just as easily put in should. We have language that says that the company commits to having as many people as possible with the weekend off, but here at JFK with over 400 mechanics only a handful has weekends off. We have similar language regarding the holidays yet the company has already declared that all line workers will be assigned to work.

This grievance was successfully negotiated by Representative Robert Gless and
was aggressively pursued by Local 565 President Don Videtich. The settlement
strengthens the contractual requirements under our scope clause. As a result, all
scheduled maintenance will now be performed by TWU members in the U.S.
unless FARs requires that the work be performed overseas in order for the
aircraft to safely return home. Brothers Gless and Videtich deserve great credit
for successfully pursuing this settlement.

This is nothing more than a charade. The company is merely agreeing to a meaningless agreement in order to fluff up their lapdog union.Does the company now recognize this as outsourced work or is it all still considered in house?

This agreement reflects management’s recognition that TWU members are the
most qualified mechanics in the world to do this work.


If any work does come back it is more than likely due to the fact that we work for less. I never thought I would see the day when foreigners look at Americans as the third world country that works for less. But thats what we get with the TWU or Third World Union.

This also indicates that
management is acknowledging our contributions to the airline since entering
into the restructuring agreement last year.
TWU: Keeping Our Work In-house

So what contribution did Gless make 17.5% of the company check while also collecting a check from the International? As for Don, he probably just wants what Bobby's got.
 
One "A" check that will continue to be done in South America is on a plane that reportedly sits for over 24 hours at DFW with a "No Check" each night before the flight. At the termination of the flight in South America, the plane runs out of time and requires a "A" check. This BS will continue with this so-called agreement. What was done about the off the record PS checks being done in Mexico City, you know where the logbook returns with several Maintenance Entries each day. Nothing in there about SDQ and some outsourced avionic work being done.

Funny, isn't this the same BS we heard from Gless about the Ramp walk arounds. Guess what they continue to do them everyday. What happened Bobby, your letter wasn't worth the paper is was written on.
 
AMFAMAN said:
One "A" check that will continue to be done in South America is on a plane that reportedly sits for over 24 hours at DFW with a "No Check" each night before the flight. At the termination of the flight in South America, the plane runs out of time and requires a "A" check. This BS will continue with this so-called agreement. What was done about the off the record PS checks being done in Mexico City, you know where the logbook returns with several Maintenance Entries each day. Nothing in there about SDQ and some outsourced avionic work being done.

Funny, isn't this the same BS we heard from Gless about the Ramp walk arounds. Guess what they continue to do them everyday. What happened Bobby, your letter wasn't worth the paper is was written on.
This is nothing more than typical TWU. They claim they got us something when in fact it is nothing.

Its the equivelent of the 1995 Me Too clause.

Remember that one?

"Look fellas, just vote it in, dont worry about the raises because we got a
"Me Too" with the pilots and you know there is no way they would settle for a 6 year 6.5% contract".

Well as it turned out the "Me Too" was a fascade and we were stuck with 6.5% over 6 years.

After this latest deal though the 95 agreement looks good!

The TWU has got to go.

Twenty years of lies and empty promises is enough.

AMFA and the AGW NOW!
 
Commit is a very weak, nearly unenforcable word,

Bob,

I would like to point out that by definition, the word "commit" is not neccessarily a "very weak" word:

Com·mit ( P ) Pronunciation Key (k-mt)
v. com·mit·ted, com·mit·ting, com·mits

v. tr.
To do, perform, or perpetrate: commit a murder.
To put in trust or charge; entrust: commit oneself to the care of a doctor; commit responsibilities to an assistant.
To place officially in confinement or custody, as in a mental health facility.
To consign for future use or reference or for preservation: commit the secret code to memory.
To put into a place to be kept safe or to be disposed of.

To make known the views of (oneself) on an issue: I never commit myself on such issues.
To bind or obligate, as by a pledge: They were committed to follow orders.
To refer (a legislative bill, for example) to a committee.

v. intr.
To pledge or obligate one's own self: felt that he was too young to commit fully to marriage.
 
This is a major victory for the TWU that benefits our members at line stations as
well as overhaul bases. While other airlines like Northwest and United are
farming out more and more maintenance overseas and domestically, the TWU is
protecting our membership by requiring that this work be performed in the U.S.
by TWU represented employees.


Where is it written in concrete language this victory for the twu? I do not believe in coincidences. AMTs are on the eve of filing to remove the twu from AA and this twu "victory" is given by the company. AA will do all their work in house as long as the twu allows langauge that permits labor loaning at the overhaul base.

I will celebrate a victory for our profession when agreements are written with solid contract language and not words like "attempt", "try", "discuss", etc.

I will celebrate a victory for our profession when AMTs are paid what our responsibilities demand.

I will celebrate a victory for our profession when AMTs are all in the same craft, democratic union.

And this celebration is right around the corner. GO AMFA!

The twu smells fear... and it is their own!
 
Dc10hound said:
Commit is a very weak, nearly unenforcable word,

Bob,

I would like to point out that by definition, the word "commit" is not neccessarily a "very weak" word:

Com·mit ( P ) Pronunciation Key (k-mt)
v. com·mit·ted, com·mit·ting, com·mits

v. tr.
To do, perform, or perpetrate: commit a murder.
To put in trust or charge; entrust: commit oneself to the care of a doctor; commit responsibilities to an assistant.
To place officially in confinement or custody, as in a mental health facility.
To consign for future use or reference or for preservation: commit the secret code to memory.
To put into a place to be kept safe or to be disposed of.

To make known the views of (oneself) on an issue: I never commit myself on such issues.
To bind or obligate, as by a pledge: They were committed to follow orders.
To refer (a legislative bill, for example) to a committee.

v. intr.
To pledge or obligate one's own self: felt that he was too young to commit fully to marriage.

In contract language it is. If you want to make something clear you say 'it shall be done" instead of "we shall committ to doing it".

"Committ" can be satisfied with an attempt. Commit can be interpreted in varying degrees. Committ weakens the language in order to make it appear you have something when you dont.

Shall by itself is definite.

God didnt say that we shall committ not to kill each other, or steal or sleep with someone elses spouse etc. He said "Thou shalt,,,"

One of the concessions of the 2001 contract was the replacing of shall with will. While basically the same meaning, because of its Biblical association, shall gives the reader the more forceful impression, there is no doubt about the intention.

"Committ" does not strenthen language, it weakens it. For instance " The company shall keep all work in house" vs "The company shall committ to keep all work in house". See the difference? The whole meaning is changed.


With shall, on its own the language is clear. There is no out, all work is to be done in house. No way of getting around it. However with will committ, or even shall committ, all the company has to do is come up with an excuse, "hey, we tried but,,,,,". The shall is tied to the act of committ instead of the work. Did they try? Can we prove they didnt?

We have this type of language throughout our contract which is why members read the book, think they have something only to be told "They can do that". You can thank Art Luby for a lot of that.
 
First of all it should be made clear that this was not a win, it was a settlement. The grievance was withdrawn on the basis of a series of weak promises to commit, try, when possible, etc. Basically the company was reaffirming what the contract already states.

So with each A check and SIC done overseas we will simply hear what we heard before.
 
well bob, AMFA -"SHALL"- replace the twu as the bargaining agent for the mechanics craft and class A.A. not only have we the members committed to do so we "SHALL" do it in victorious landslide......bye bye twu! :up:
 
Article 7 (f)

No employee will be required to report for duty on a paid holiday that falls on his regularly scheduled workday, except (not accept CIO) when absolutely required for the operation.



January 22, 2004





Robert Gless

International Representative

Transport Workers Union of America

1791 Hurstview Drive

Hurst, TX 76054





Dear Bobby,



This letter will serve as formal notification that the Company will post a notice at its airports requiring all TWU represented employees within the Line Maintenance organization to work their scheduled shifts on the following holidays for 2004/05. Those scheduled holidays include Sunday, July 4, 2004, Monday, September 6, 2004, Thursday, November 25, 2004, Saturday, December 25, 2004 and Saturday, January 1, 2005.




The notice (See Attached) will satisfy the contractual obligation under Article 7(f) of the applicable AA/TWU labor agreements to post a notification for those required to work at least three (3) days in advance.



If you should have any questions, please contact me at xxx-xxxx.



Sincerely,


James B. Weel

Managing Director

Employee Relations



cc: R. Reding

Vice Presidents – M&E

Area Managing Directors – M&E

J. Coles

J. Little

G. Yingst

B. Gless

M. Tinsman

C. Alexander

ER Field Principals

MAS Managers

TWU Local Presidents



BULLETIN BOARD POSTING


Date: ___________







To: All Crew Chiefs – Aircraft Maintenance Technicians

All Aircraft Maintenance Technicians

All Crew Chiefs – Stock Cerks

All Stock Clerks





NOTICE FOR HOLIDAY WORK REQUIREMENT


In accordance with Article 7(f) of the applicable AA/TWU labor agreements, this letter will serve as official notification of your requirement to work your scheduled shift on the following holidays:



Independence Day - Sunday, July 4, 2004

Labor Day - Monday, September 6, 2004

Thanksgiving Day - Thursday, November 25, 2004

Christmas Day - Saturday, December 25, 2004

New Years Day – Saturday, January 1, 2005



As a result of this notice, all covered employees will be expected to report to work at their scheduled time and to work the entire shift, unless a subsequent notice for posting instructs you otherwise.



All other provisions under Article 7 of the AA/TWU labor agreements remain in force and effect.



If you have any questions, please contact your Supervisor/Administration office at ____________.





Sincerely,





Appropriate Manager





cc: Local TWU office


Basically what it comes down to is we no longer have ANY Holidays. Over the course of the entire year we get $600 dollars where we used to get $4200. So not only do we get to not spend the holidays with our families but we really dont even get compensated for it! Thanks to the TWU!
 
You guy's are to funny, I really like all the hoopla about the forcefullness of the wording in our contract. Hasn't that very wording allowed us to maintain our maintenance in house? Unlike the "iron clad" language of the Association you so desperately seek to become the bargaining agent. I see that AMFA itself uses very weak language even within their publicated annoncements. See example:

The Association fully expects to file for a representational dispute/election within the next two weeks.

"fully expects",? Sounds a little weak to me...!

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AMFA: The YUGO of the labor movement
Where bargaining means YOU GO....!
 
High Speed Steel said:
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Hasn't that very wording allowed us to maintain our maintenance in house?

Well if we had such good wording then how come we had to give all of those concessions?


"fully expects",? Sounds a little weak to me...!

Lets see what happens.
:) ;)