From Bad to Worse

[dapoes]

What is worse than the U.S. being berated for human rights violations by the likes of Iran and Cuba?

The U.S. submitting itself to the scrutiny of the likes of Cuba and Iran and"promising" them it would improve its human rights record:US agrees to improve human rights record

The United States on Friday disavowed torture and pledged to treat terror suspects humanely, but set aside calls to drop the death penalty, as the United Nations carried out its first review of Washington's human rights record.

As part a groundbreaking commitment to improvement under the Obama administration, the U.S. joined the 47-nation Human Rights Council in 2009. And in doing so, submitted to more international scrutiny.

State Department legal adviser Harold Koh outlined nine key improvement areas Friday, encompassing about 174 of the 228 recommendations the community had urged on Washington in an initial report last November. Nations are held accountable for what they agree to improve. He said the U.S. would agree to improvements in areas ranging from civil rights to national security to immigration, including intolerance of torture and the humane treatment of suspects at the Guantanamo Bay detention facility in Cuba.

In a matter of just two short years, Obama has taken this country from being the most powerful nation on earth and the beacon of freedom and liberty in the world down to the same level of tinpot dictatorships such as Iran and Cuba.

There is your Hope and Change.

 

[700UW]

Gee what about Bush who approved torture?

Your amazing.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Gee what about Bush who approved torture?

Your amazing.

Bush ain't in office now is he?

Before I accept one dimes worth of criticism from two rogue nations hell will freeze over twice. This bonehead is no different than the previous bonehead. Neither of which is worth the powder to blow to hell.

Continued Imperialist/Interventionist policies that make us less safe despite our awesome military and technological prowess. Why on God's green earth do we have troops in 139 countries? I mean really what's the Ivory Coast going to do to the US? Invade North Carolina? Nah probably just conflict diamonds and they don't need a US Military presence to kill each other and profit from the sale of diamonds while millions suffer. I'm not interested in starving Africans who are starving because of blood diamonds. People are hungry here, our schools suck here. Charity, I'm told begins at home and no pissant President of Iran or Cuba has any business telling any country how to conduct their policies given there own Pot/Kettle human rights record.

No what we will continue to do is intervene and cause entire generations to despise us and become suicide bombers and make us less safe. I cannot help but wonder when the whole Libyan thing shakes out just how many more Jihadists we've created and how many will end up in the US attempting to kill us en masse?

Leave these morons alone!. Allow them to kill themselves. Sell them weapons if we must but allow the factions to work it out amongst themselves. If they come to kill we can turn their entire country of origin into a pile of ruble with the push of a button. Then there won't be anyone to complain about human rights

We spend close to ONE TRILLION on maintaining our empire throughout the world. The annual deficit is around a Trillion. Do the math people. Charity and defense begin at home. If your military isn't in Iraq then you never have to worry about human rights complaints now do ya?

 

[southwind]

'Nuff said !

 

[SparrowHawk]

'Nuff said !

I always liked Sir Winston Churchill's definition of an appeaser.

An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

 

[xUT]

We don't disagree on this either. B)

 

[dapoes]

Gee what about Bush who approved torture?

Your amazing.

So what if he did. We have nothing to apologize for. Especially to other nations with horrific human rights abuses.

It would be like you apologizing to J Dahmer for violent attitude when you may have punched someone in a bar fight. It's ridiculous.

If we had an administration and president with ballz they would have told them to pound sand when question our human rights record. But we don't. We have weak liberal progressive that's been exposed to the rest of the world as a wimp and an idiot.

 

[700UW]

Hypocrisy

 

[xUT]

Hypocrisy

I think deeper than that.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Hypocrisy

Well my friend there is no shortage of hypocrisy on either side of the fence. Like I've been maintaining the Left & Right are nothing more than two wings on the same bird of prey.

Son Edwards sings it best.

 

[777 fixer]

Why on God's green earth do we have troops in 139 countries?

Do have a list of these countries?

 

[Kev3188]

135 by this 2004 list, not counting places like Guam or Greenland (since it's technically part of Denmark).


Afghanistan
Albania
Algeria
Antigua
Argentina
Australia
Austria
Azerbaijan
Bahamas
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Barbados
Belgium
Belize
Bolivia
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Botswana
Brazil
Bulgaria
Burma
Burundi
Cambodia
Cameroon
Canada
Chad
Chile
China
Colombia
Congo
Costa Rica
Cote D'lvoire
Cuba
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Djibouti
Dominican Republic
East Timor
Ecuador
Egypt
El Salvador
Eritrea
Estonia
Ethiopia
Fiji
Finland
France
Georgia
Germany
Ghana
Greece
Guatemala
Guinea
Haiti
Honduras
Hungary
Iceland
India
Indonesia
Iraq
Ireland
Israel
Italy
Jamaica
Japan
Jordan
Kazakhstan
Kenya
Kuwait
Kyrgyzstan
Laos
Latvia
Lebanon
Liberia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Macedonia
Madagascar
Malawi
Malaysia
Mali
Malta
Mexico
Mongolia
Morocco
Mozambique
Nepal
Netherlands
New Zealand
Nicaragua

Niger
Nigeria
North Korea
Norway
Oman
Pakistan
Paraguay
Peru
Philippines
Poland
Portugal
Qatar
Romania
Russia
Saudi Arabia
Senegal
Serbia and Montenegro
Sierra Leone
Singapore
Slovenia
Spain
South Africa
South Korea
Sri Lanka
Suriname
Sweden
Switzerland
Syria
Tanzania
Thailand
Togo
Trinidad and Tobago
Tunisia
Turkey
Turkmenistan
Uganda
Ukraine
United Arab Emirates
United Kingdom
Uruguay
Venezuela
Vietnam
Yemen
Zambia
Zimbabwe

 

[777 fixer]

Leave these morons alone!. Allow them to kill themselves. Sell them weapons if we must but allow the factions to work it out amongst themselves. If they come to kill we can turn their entire country of origin into a pile of ruble with the push of a button. Then there won't be anyone to complain about human rights

There seems to be a contradiction here. On one hand you are saying that we should mind our own business. Yet you say sell them weapons if we must. The second you provide weapons to one side you then become involved wether you want to or not. You cannot sell a weapons system and then just wash your hands of it.

 

[777 fixer]

135 by this 2004 list, not counting places like Guam or Greenland (since it's technically part of Denmark).

Here's a more up tp date list.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/2009/hst0906.pdf

Notice that in a lot of the countries the number is under a hundred. Which begs the qeustion, are some there as part of the diplomatic mission to the countries listed?

 

[Kev3188]

It's certainly possible, but aren't embassies manned by Marines? If so, how does that explain the other forces in each country, or for that matter the ones with less than a handful of soldiers?