Nobody Wants To Say The L-word.

[Bulscu]

Why would the Continental name survive? United has much more worldwide presence, especially in Asia (the real jewel). What about seniority, how would they sort that out?

[post="290131"][/post]​

The name would survive because of 'Retained Preference' which is a measure of high yield customers seeking out your product, this equates to millions and billions of extra dollars over the years and takes millions and millions of dollars and effort to develope. In other words, Continental gets a 'premium' for their tickets when they sell one were as United actually gets less than average yield when they sell, so automatically and soon after Continentals names is on the whole combined CAL/UAL system, they enjoy this yield premium as opposed to yield deficit if it was the other way around, UAL/CAL. This amounts to the potential difference between succes and failure....good-luck to you too....

 

[RowUnderDCA]

hey, you may be right, but boy, they way you post.... it sounds SOOO made up!

so... my turn

UAL/CO

then

AMR/DL minus AA's LHR rights to jetBlue in exchange for antitrust immunity with BA

NW/US/HP

 

[Bulscu]

hey, you may be right, but boy, they way you post.... it sounds SOOO made up!

so... my turn

UAL/CO

then

AMR/DL minus AA's LHR rights to jetBlue in exchange for antitrust immunity with BA

NW/US/HP

[post="290507"][/post]​

Ha ha, so made up? :blink: I know to some and especially those that use to working for the biggest and the best, it's hard to imagine....these are straaaange times we live in and in time you'll see, Continental is much much more efficient than what's known..

The Continental model, in conjunction with most of the UAL system, under the right management, synergized and right sized...is very powerful. UAL by itself or under current management or whatever, is a looser or at least that's what anyone that knows says...it doesn't mean the people are loosers, it's just that management has been so poor for so long, something else other than the still no business plan is going to happen. Why do I continue to say this?

Just follow the money....

What happens here at this point in history, industry wide will be with us for a very long time indeed, and the financial and international implications abound, it's not just business as usual....

You'll see:

CAL/UAL

AMR/NWAC

SOUTHWEST/?

misc., merging and looking for a way to compeat after the growth stops.....*

Wait, Watch..Learn


and of course good luck to all involved.

 

[JungleClone]

All this talk about possible merger combinations is a nice exercise in passing the time. But it ignores the fact that there will be a complete change in the senior management of UAL before anything like that ever happens. Anyone who thinks Tilton and Company are here for the long haul are only kidding themselves. Given UA's significantly reduced cost structure (including lease rates, overheard, labor costs, etc.) and their having shed their pension liabilities by transferring control and funding over to the PBGC, upon emergence from bankruptcy, they will be a formidable company in the hands of the right management team.

It's obvious Delta, and, most likely Northwest, will have no choice but to file for Chapter 11 before October 17, given the change in bankruptcy law that goes into effect. Those two carriers will then spend the next year plus going through all the same things we've been dealing with for 2 1/2 years. That will give us a considerable head start.

The real wild card for United, and everyone else, is fuel. Fuel costs are only going to continue to go up as the obvious is gradually acknowledged: that we are at the point where global oil capacity can no longer keep pace with demand. The result is that the cutting knives will be out once again for another pass at labor before all is said and done. Once that happens under the auspices of a new management team, I believe then some of these merger scenarios may begin to happen.

 

[Bulscu]

cal & ual = cal2

:mf_boff:

 

[Busdrvr]

cal & ual = cal2

:mf_boff:

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Would mean UAL employees having to work with a bunch of spineless, industry basement scabs. no thanks, we've got too many already

 

[Bulscu]

Would