To All The Fools Who Thought Obamacare Was A Good Idea

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    La Li Lu Le Lo,

    SCOTUS Chief Justice John Roberts thought and still thinks that it's a Constitutional GOOD IDEA !
     
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    Point is bears you let the government control your healthcare they are going to budget it as they see fit despite the need of the people.

    Again don't take my word for it. Many countries have cut their nationalized healthcare budgets. This is despite taking on migrants and native population growth.

    You see it happening right here before your eyes in THIS country yet you would still support single payer?

    What is it going to take to prove to you that it simply doesn't work. Especially when you allow illegal immigrants who have not payed into the system to burden it.
     
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    Well La Le Lu Li Lo, "I" can't produce a good example for your theory, because I'm on a Medicare Advantage Plan, and I use a large regional medical center here in most southern NH. which has been FABULOUS for me for years.
    When I needed highly specialized care some years back, I had FULL access to MASSACHUSETTS GENERAL Hospital (Boston/45 miles away), No questions $$$$$$$$$$$ asked !
     
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    Take a look at the VA. Underfunded.
    Indian Healthcare. Underfunded.
    Medicaid. Underfunded and being cut.

    Medicare may serve you well but you have also paid into it your whole life. You SHOULD be able to expect a return on your investment. Same for SSI.

    And before you say Trump these issues existed LONG before his tenure. Though the media likes to act like these issues only started since he was elected. Which we both know is BS.
     
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    #10 KCFlyer, May 17, 2020
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    Back in the 1960's maybe. That's when the south was blue. But the south is now a deep red....did all the racists move to California? Since 1968, what democrat has been endorsed by noted Klan members like David Duke?
     
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    One of them moved to Tulsa.
     
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    Or maybe more recently than that......

    So the south was BLUE (Democrats) during the civil rights movement?

    That's because people wised up to the fact that the Democrats had been infiltrated by a bunch of communist. We are a hell of a long way from “Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country,” Now it's all "I want free healthcare" and "I want free college".

    I think racism is very rampant in California. You have a bunch of limousine liberals pushing propaganda that minorities are "victims" of institutionalized racism then in the same breath ask them to trust the government to fix all their problems.

    I mean you have to laugh at the absurdity of it.

    They don't give a damn about minorities, they just exploit them to push their socialist agendas.

    No idea. Wikipedia says he listed as Democrat from 1975–1988.
     
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    Lots of quantity, zero quality.
     
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    You're getting close....you're right...the south was very blue and very racist during the civil rights movement. I'll admit that. The thing that confuses me is that the south is now solid red. Did the racists move? Or were they more afraid of communism and socialism that they joined the party of Lincoln to celebrate the freedom of the black man? What happened to the blue racists in the south after 1968 or so?

    Why did David Duke become a republican in 1988? Did he see the error of his ways? Of did he suddenly realize he'd have a better chance of getting elected if he ran as a republican?
     
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    #15 La Li Lu Le Lo, May 17, 2020
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    Seems to me David Duke just goes wherever the wind blows him.

    Political partyAmerican Nazi (before 1975)[1]
    Democratic (1975–1988)
    Populist (1988–1989)
    Republican (1989–1999; 2016–present)[2]
    Reform (1999–2001)

    Your error lies in the fact that you refuse to acknowledge that the Democratic Party has fundamentally changed since the days of JFK.

    Again we went from this

    “Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country”

    to this

    "I want free healthcare"
    . "I want free college", and "I want universal basic income".

    I want..... I want.....I want.....I want.....I want.....I want.....I want.....I want.....I want..... the new Mantra of the Democratic Party.

    In fact the only thing they don't want is to pay for their own s**t.
     

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