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So the F/A's have gotten a 90 day stay of execution because if they do not voluntairily give up their pensions at that time the company will be filing to abrogate their contract as well.
The pilots don't care, they've already agreed to give up the pension (but not until after May 5th)
Funny how all of this has been convieniently put off until May 11th eh?
The mechanics should't feel disheartened with this news. This showdown is going to happen either now or in 90 days. Might as well get it over with.
The pilots don't care, they've already agreed to give up the pension (but not until after May 5th)
Funny how all of this has been convieniently put off until May 11th eh?
The mechanics should't feel disheartened with this news. This showdown is going to happen either now or in 90 days. Might as well get it over with.
jimntx
Veteran
1991 Pay Scale!!!! Eeeyow! 
I voted against the d***mn thing. I feel like the company has not been forthcoming in making other cuts other than wages.
With the loss we had in the fourth quarter the $775 M in givebacks they want will only be a drop in the bucket. They will want more by this spring. This company does not have a clue where they are headed or what their actual exspenses are. We have not made a profit in how many months?
Subsidizing the company with our wages is not the way to operate. The amfa did the right thing in voting no.
With the loss we had in the fourth quarter the $775 M in givebacks they want will only be a drop in the bucket. They will want more by this spring. This company does not have a clue where they are headed or what their actual exspenses are. We have not made a profit in how many months?
Subsidizing the company with our wages is not the way to operate. The amfa did the right thing in voting no.
Results
56.8% Voted FOR the Tentative Agreement
70.5% of Eligible AFA Members Voted
Council Eligible Votes Ballots Received FOR AGAINST % FOR % Voting
BOS 458 321 141 178 43.9% 70.1%
CDG 266 237 112 120 47.3% 89.1%
DCA 1704 1150 571 568 49.7% 67.5%
DEN 1247 895 521 365 58.2% 71.8%
EWR 356 275 168 105 61.1% 77.2%
FRA 222 135 91 44 67.4% 60.8%
HKG 398 230 173 52 75.2% 57.8%
HNL 223 173 164 9 94.8% 77.6%
JFK 878 605 217 381 35.9% 68.9%
LAS 218 185 68 115 36.8% 84.9%
LAX 1718 1191 673 511 56.5% 69.3%
LHR 613 467 267 192 57.2% 76.2%
NRT 523 242 158 80 65.3% 46.3%
ORD 3572 2672 1370 1275 51.3% 74.8%
PHL 180 112 68 44 60.7% 62.2%
SEA 460 395 314 81 79.5% 85.9%
SFO 2600 1751 1190 554 68.0% 67.3%
TOTAL 15646** 11036* 6266 4674 56.8% 70.5%
* 53 Ballots cast were voided and 43 of the ballots initiated did not cast a vote either way.
** Total includes 10 Members who are not assigned to a domicile.
Ratification of this Tentative Agreement recognizes that under the cruel realities of bankruptcy, the lesser of two evils is to ensure that we shape the concessions forced upon us rather than allow mistrusted management to seek rejection of our Contract and impose concessions in the way that they see fit. However, in no way is this ratification for additional sacrifices an endorsement of United Airlines management. We will continue to challenge and expose shortsighted decisions and executive greed at every opportunity.
We demand that current management develop an exit strategy from bankruptcy that does not destroy the hard-earned pensions promised to us for retirement security – that would be one sacrifice too many. Indeed, this narrow vote is saying to management that Flight Attendants have sacrificed enough and we will not allow this management to extract any more. At the same time, management must seriously address the quality of work life issues important to us, with all the dedication and commitment that Flight Attendants have put into saving our airline. It's vital that they work closely with us, understanding our problems, if United Airlines is to emerge from bankruptcy with the kind of future we know it can have.
-- MEC President Greg Davidowitch
56.8% Voted FOR the Tentative Agreement
70.5% of Eligible AFA Members Voted
Council Eligible Votes Ballots Received FOR AGAINST % FOR % Voting
BOS 458 321 141 178 43.9% 70.1%
CDG 266 237 112 120 47.3% 89.1%
DCA 1704 1150 571 568 49.7% 67.5%
DEN 1247 895 521 365 58.2% 71.8%
EWR 356 275 168 105 61.1% 77.2%
FRA 222 135 91 44 67.4% 60.8%
HKG 398 230 173 52 75.2% 57.8%
HNL 223 173 164 9 94.8% 77.6%
JFK 878 605 217 381 35.9% 68.9%
LAS 218 185 68 115 36.8% 84.9%
LAX 1718 1191 673 511 56.5% 69.3%
LHR 613 467 267 192 57.2% 76.2%
NRT 523 242 158 80 65.3% 46.3%
ORD 3572 2672 1370 1275 51.3% 74.8%
PHL 180 112 68 44 60.7% 62.2%
SEA 460 395 314 81 79.5% 85.9%
SFO 2600 1751 1190 554 68.0% 67.3%
TOTAL 15646** 11036* 6266 4674 56.8% 70.5%
* 53 Ballots cast were voided and 43 of the ballots initiated did not cast a vote either way.
** Total includes 10 Members who are not assigned to a domicile.
Ratification of this Tentative Agreement recognizes that under the cruel realities of bankruptcy, the lesser of two evils is to ensure that we shape the concessions forced upon us rather than allow mistrusted management to seek rejection of our Contract and impose concessions in the way that they see fit. However, in no way is this ratification for additional sacrifices an endorsement of United Airlines management. We will continue to challenge and expose shortsighted decisions and executive greed at every opportunity.
We demand that current management develop an exit strategy from bankruptcy that does not destroy the hard-earned pensions promised to us for retirement security – that would be one sacrifice too many. Indeed, this narrow vote is saying to management that Flight Attendants have sacrificed enough and we will not allow this management to extract any more. At the same time, management must seriously address the quality of work life issues important to us, with all the dedication and commitment that Flight Attendants have put into saving our airline. It's vital that they work closely with us, understanding our problems, if United Airlines is to emerge from bankruptcy with the kind of future we know it can have.
-- MEC President Greg Davidowitch
JAMAKE1
Veteran
Voting Results By Domicile
Base---Elig.Votes---Ballots Rec'vd----FOR------AGAINST------% FOR-------% Voting
BOS------458------------321-----------141---------178-----------43.9%----------70.1%
CDG------266------------237-----------112---------120-----------47.3%---------89.1%
DCA-----1704-----------1150-----------571---------568----------49.7%----------67.5%
DEN------1247-----------895-----------521---------365-----------58.2%---------71.8%
EWR------356------------275------------168--------105-----------61.1%---------77.2%
FRA-------222------------135-------------91----------44-----------67.4%---------60.8%
HKG------398------------230------------173----------52-----------75.2%---------57.8%
HNL-------223------------173------------164-----------9-----------94.8%--------77.6%
JFK-------878-------------605------------217--------381-----------35.9%---------68.9%
LAS-------218------------185--------------68--------115-----------36.8%---------84.9%
LAX------1718-----------1191------------673--------511-----------56.5%--------69.3%
LHR-------613-------------467------------267--------192-----------57.2%--------76.2%
NRT-------523-------------242------------158---------80-----------65.3%--------46.3%
ORD-----3572------------2672-----------1370------1275-----------51.3%--------74.8%
PHL-------180--------------112-------------68---------44------------60.7%-------62.2%
SEA-------460--------------395------------314--------81------------79.5%-------85.9%
SFO------2600------------1751-----------1190-------554------------68.0%-------67.3%
TOTAL----15646**------11036*---------6266-------4674-----------56.8%----70.5%
*53 Ballots cast were voided and 43 of the ballots initiated did not cast a vote
either way.
**Total includes 10 Members who are not assigned to a domicile.
Base---Elig.Votes---Ballots Rec'vd----FOR------AGAINST------% FOR-------% Voting
BOS------458------------321-----------141---------178-----------43.9%----------70.1%
CDG------266------------237-----------112---------120-----------47.3%---------89.1%
DCA-----1704-----------1150-----------571---------568----------49.7%----------67.5%
DEN------1247-----------895-----------521---------365-----------58.2%---------71.8%
EWR------356------------275------------168--------105-----------61.1%---------77.2%
FRA-------222------------135-------------91----------44-----------67.4%---------60.8%
HKG------398------------230------------173----------52-----------75.2%---------57.8%
HNL-------223------------173------------164-----------9-----------94.8%--------77.6%
JFK-------878-------------605------------217--------381-----------35.9%---------68.9%
LAS-------218------------185--------------68--------115-----------36.8%---------84.9%
LAX------1718-----------1191------------673--------511-----------56.5%--------69.3%
LHR-------613-------------467------------267--------192-----------57.2%--------76.2%
NRT-------523-------------242------------158---------80-----------65.3%--------46.3%
ORD-----3572------------2672-----------1370------1275-----------51.3%--------74.8%
PHL-------180--------------112-------------68---------44------------60.7%-------62.2%
SEA-------460--------------395------------314--------81------------79.5%-------85.9%
SFO------2600------------1751-----------1190-------554------------68.0%-------67.3%
TOTAL----15646**------11036*---------6266-------4674-----------56.8%----70.5%
*53 Ballots cast were voided and 43 of the ballots initiated did not cast a vote
either way.
**Total includes 10 Members who are not assigned to a domicile.
JAMAKE1
Veteran
Fly....
You beat me to it...damn formatting!
You beat me to it...damn formatting!
