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Seems like same old song. Anyone have answer as to why this problem persists.
Or maybe I should say is it "labor" or "managements" fault?

U.S. Airways posted the best on-time rate among major mainline carriers. It was third in the overall rankings behind Hawaiian and Alaska Airlines. American Airlines reported the worst on-time rate of big U.S. carriers. Its sister carrier, regional airline American Eagle, was last among all airlines reporting.

http://www.seattlepi.com/business/1310ap_us_airlines_delays.html?source=rss
 
Seems like same old song. Anyone have answer as to why this problem persists.
Or maybe I should say is it "labor" or "managements" fault?

U.S. Airways posted the best on-time rate among major mainline carriers. It was third in the overall rankings behind Hawaiian and Alaska Airlines. American Airlines reported the worst on-time rate of big U.S. carriers. Its sister carrier, regional airline American Eagle, was last among all airlines reporting.

http://www.seattlepi.com/business/1310ap_us_airlines_delays.html?source=rss

We'll need to form a committee,appoint a VP,task half a dozen CSM's to the committee, have meetings, develop mission statement,publicize the snot out of it on Jetnet and other propaganda outlets and still have it fall flat on its face when every suggestion from the people that actually participate in the day to day operation of the airline is ignored.

This isn't quantum mechanics.
 
Morale has nothing to do with on time departures.

:unsure: :blink: :unsure:
... and money has nothing to do with motivation ...

I would say that's rather evident as Arpey and cabal are paid handsomely for sinking the company - perhaps if we did more to the company's detriment we could get a better raise in pay ...
 
We'll need to form a committee,appoint a VP,task half a dozen CSM's to the committee, have meetings, develop mission statement,publicize the snot out of it on Jetnet and other propaganda outlets and still have it fall flat on its face when every suggestion from the people that actually participate in the day to day operation of the airline is ignored.

This isn't quantum mechanics.


You left out getting the Working Together Union Counterparts for Managers together to get their opinions before management does what they want anyway and then hiring two consulting firms to review the issue and give management the re-invent the wheel direction they need to go.
 
You left out getting the Working Together Union Counterparts for Managers together to get their opinions before management does what they want anyway and then hiring two consulting firms to review the issue and give management the re-invent the wheel direction they need to go.
Will there be T-Shirts?
 
Maybe it has something to do with the mechanics holding the log book hostage and walking at a snails pace to deliver it back to the aircraft like has happened on my last two Europe flights.
 
Maybe it has something to do with the mechanics holding the log book hostage and walking at a snails pace to deliver it back to the aircraft like has happened on my last two Europe flights.

Prove it!
 
Morale has nothing to do with on time departures.

Apparently, it doesn't.

US was #3, UA was #4, Mesa was #10, Southwest was #12, and Jetblue was #15. AA was #16.

Southwest also had the second highest number of flights arriving late more than 70% of the time (7).

By your measure, Southwest and Jetblue should be first and Mesa or US Airways should be at the bottom of the list...

http://airconsumer.dot.gov/reports/2010/June/2010JuneATCR.PDF
 
Many factors involved. Having the right people for the right job is one big problem. AA no longer has Airline people running the operation. AA hires the lowest paid person for certain positions and experience is not a main concern. We as a company do not work together in moving the product. Communication is a big problem. Input from front line employees is virtually non existent. We never see the big picture is the generic answer. Morale is another reason. I will not touch on why morale is low, it will lead to debates that will drift from the topic. AA's route structure and weather issues always play a facture. DFW and MIA create havoc in the summer months. ORD and the northeast cities create problems in the winter months and year round with ATC related issues. There's more but that's all I can come up with for now.
 
Maybe it has something to do with the mechanics holding the log book hostage and walking at a snails pace to deliver it back to the aircraft like has happened on my last two Europe flights.

Good thing these stats don't include international flights or AA's April numbers might have been even worse. 😀
 
AA's route structure and weather issues always play a facture. DFW and MIA create havoc in the summer months. ORD and the northeast cities create problems in the winter months and year round with ATC related issues. There's more but that's all I can come up with for now.

Why wait for Summer or Winter? I've been flying sequences the past two months that go either through MIA (last month twice within 24 hours) or ORD. Just this week, with bright blue sky over Chicago, we had an 1+hour ATC hold at the gate in STL waiting for permission to leave for ORD. No explanation other than ORD was busy. That sequence then continued from ORD to MIA. Supposed to have 50 minutes on the ground, TPA turn, then 16 hour layover in MIA. Yeah!

However, we got to MIA to discover that our plane had not yet left SJU--mechanical. When it finally arrived, there was another mechanical. Our 16 hour layover ended up being barely 12 hours.

Last month, my line had us going through MIA twice in less than 24 hours. Either on the way from MIA to MCO on day 1 or on the way to DFW via MIA on day 2, we were delayed at least 1 hour at MIA every sequence all month long. A couple of times we were delayed so long on Day 2 at MIA that we ended up laying over in DFW instead of going on to LAX. From what I heard from other f/as flying the same sequence on the other days (it was a daily sequence all month), they had pretty much the same experiences.

I'm not sure that this is necessarily MIA's fault, though. All of the above was on the 757 which apparently is becoming the maintenance hog of this airline--taking the crown from the late, unlamented A300. And, in a lot of instances the a/c is coming in from the Caribbean where scheduled departure is more of a suggestion than a commitment.

I just know that if the sequence calls for going to or through MIA, we've all resigned ourselves to the probability of a delay. Seasons don't seem to have anything to do with it.
 
Good bad or ugly, the other carriers have pilot contracts.


Personally, it has a definite effect on the operation.


There is also the issue of eliminating certain inspections that used to be done on overnights
by the mechanics. More than a few items end up getting discovered on a preflight 20 minutes before the first departure of the day.

Saving money buy reducing available spares is another factor although I think that has been improved. It's funny how there was no accountability on the effect on the operation at the VP level for that decison.
 

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