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... (but we’re not sure how much)

http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2013/01/airbus-sweetens-airplane-deal-with-american-airlines-but-were-not-sure-how-much.html/
 
Sound like the IAE V2500 engine is the full package including service and TWU overhaul will not be working on them.
 
Airbus recently built a factory in Alabama.
http://www.nycaviati...actory-alabama/
http://www.foxnews.c...ma-sources-say/
http://www.cbsnews.c...ant-in-alabama/
http://www.bostonglo...VfvI/story.html

I really liked this quote:
"Boeing, for its part, has dismissed claims by Airbus and Alabama officials of the plant’s economic impact, arguing that the numbers of new jobs that will be created ‘‘pale in comparison to the thousands of US jobs destroyed by illegal subsidies’’ Airbus has received from European governments over the past three decades."

I also read the reason Airbus moved here is because the coating/paint Airbus used to give the AA aircraft that shiny aluminum look (since it is a composite and AA wanted that classic look) violated French EPA laws, so Airbus came here to dump their garbage on American soil.

I liked this quote as well:
"Building jets in Alabama will allow Airbus to take advantage of so-called right-to-work laws, which bar union membership as a requirement of employment. That can hold down employers’ wage and benefit costs. Boeing chose nearby South Carolina, another right-to-work state, for a 787 Dreamliner plant in 2009, its first commercial-jet factory outside the Seattle-area manufacturing hub where the company was founded."

So in other words, they moved here to take advantage of cheap labor.

So a company that takes illegal subsidies is moving to America to pollute our soil and take advantage of cheap labor that has reduced collective bargaining power.

I give you the new America.
 
Gee, no exaggeration in that response. None whatsoever...

Airbus's main facility in Toulouse has been operating at capacity for some time. They had to expand somewhere, and they've already built over 100 aircraft in Tianjin, China. Building a plant somewhere in the Americas was long expected, and given the customer base in the US, it made sense to build in the US.

Since AA appears to be moving towards a new livery, the scaremongering about dumping chemical waste here seems to be just that.
 
Wonder why they didnt build in South America labor is cheaper and regulations are even less restrictive? As we are costantly being told that its so easy for us based carriers to send all our wirk there seemd strabfe that Airbu would not take advantage of thst. Maybe our job were never as much at risk as we were kead to believe.
 
AMR Seeks Bankruptcy Court Approval for Revised Contracts

AMR Corp. (AAMRQ) sought bankruptcy court approval for restructured contracts with its aircraft and jet engines suppliers that the carrier said will help it switch to more fuel-efficient planes as part of its reorganization.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-03/amr-seeks-bankruptcy-court-approval-for-revised-contracts.html
 
I also read the reason Airbus moved here is because the coating/paint Airbus used to give the AA aircraft that shiny aluminum look (since it is a composite and AA wanted that classic look) violated French EPA laws, so Airbus came here to dump their garbage on American soil.

Numerous problems with that claim. Number one the fuselage on the A320 is not composite it's aluminium. Airbus just happens to delviver their aircraft painted. Number two AA takes delivery of it's first Airbus this year, the Alabama plant wont' start delivering aircraft till 2016.
 
I'm looking for a new scheme on the entire fleet with merger .... will take years to complete. With all the orders, now is the time to do it.
 
Wonder why they didnt build in South America labor is cheaper and regulations are even less restrictive? As we are costantly being told that its so easy for us based carriers to send all our wirk there seemd strabfe that Airbu would not take advantage of thst. Maybe our job were never as much at risk as we were kead to believe.

Where would you recommend they send them in South America? There is something to be said for American infrastructure and supporting businesses. I am sure, just like a lot of states these days, Alabama is paying big time money and giving major tax breaks to have Airbus there (like Vision 2025 for TULE). Jets these days are made similar to cars. Pieces in other countries are shipped to America for installation. Your car may say Toyota or Ford but the parts for those cars came from all over the world.

Gee, no exaggeration in that response. None whatsoever...

Airbus's main facility in Toulouse has been operating at capacity for some time. They had to expand somewhere, and they've already built over 100 aircraft in Tianjin, China. Building a plant somewhere in the Americas was long expected, and given the customer base in the US, it made sense to build in the US.

Since AA appears to be moving towards a new livery, the scaremongering about dumping chemical waste here seems to be just that.

It is not scaremongering. It is a fact France would not allow Airbus to use the "aluminum" paint because it violated their EPA laws. It is also a fact those aircraft will be painted here in the United States. The fact the issue even came up implies that Airbus originally wanted to manufacture in France but were denied.
 
I'm looking for a new scheme on the entire fleet with merger .... will take years to complete. With all the orders, now is the time to do it.

Merger or not, AA has already announced that there will be a new livery - the two painted 77Ws that have already been delivered to DFW (without finalized markings) are proof of that. When they are unveiled for their first revenue flights we'll see what AA has chosen as the new livery.
 
Numerous problems with that claim. Number one the fuselage on the A320 is not composite it's aluminium. Airbus just happens to delviver their aircraft painted. Number two AA takes delivery of it's first Airbus this year, the Alabama plant wont' start delivering aircraft till 2016.

Wikipedia had this. I will look into it a little deeper since I do not consider Wikipedia to be a valid source. I have read similar information from other sources however.

"The Airbus A320 is the first narrow body airliner to use a significant amount of the structure made from composite material. Its tail assembly made almost entirely of such material by CASA, who also builds the elevators, main landing gear doors, and rear fuselage parts."

I am curious where your getting your info for the A320 since AA has not received any aircraft yet. Have they already started prepping mechanics to work on them? If so, are you sure the manual or training information is for the new series?

As far as AA taking their first delivery this year, we shall see.
 
Merger or not, AA has already announced that there will be a new livery - the two painted 77Ws that have already been delivered to DFW (without finalized markings) are proof of that. When they are unveiled for their first revenue flights we'll see what AA has chosen as the new livery.

Are we talking painting similar to the stripes we currently have or are we talking a whole fuselage paint job?
 
Wikipedia had this. I will look into it a little deeper since I do not consider Wikipedia to be a valid source. I have read similar information from other sources however.

"The Airbus A320 is the first narrow body airliner to use a significant amount of the structure made from composite material. Its tail assembly made almost entirely of such material by CASA, who also builds the elevators, main landing gear doors, and rear fuselage parts."

Wikipedia, there's your problem. No where did it say the fuselage is made from composite, which it is not.
 
It is not scaremongering. It is a fact France would not allow Airbus to use the "aluminum" paint because it violated their EPA laws. It is also a fact those aircraft will be painted here in the United States. The fact the issue even came up implies that Airbus originally wanted to manufacture in France but were denied.

Where on earth are you getting this information? First of all AA new paint scheme is light grey and white, not "aluminum" paint. You keep refering to things as "fact" yet offer no supporting info. So here are the facts as they are. AA is taking delivery of it's first A320 this year. The Mobile site won't start delivering till 20126.
 

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