American airlines Arena VS American Airlines Center
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On top of that, in hundreds (if not thousands) of newspapers all over the country, the words "American Airlines" will appear in the sports sections the next morning. During the regular season, a Google News search on "American Airlines" typically returns several hundred same-day news articles recapping the previous night's game of either the Mavs or Heat (or both, if both were at home).
On a per-view basis, the two deals are cheap.
But that won't deter the micro-managers who don't work at HDQ.
As far as the Mavericks, let's not forget that when AA bought the naming rights to the now AAC, Perot owned this turd of a franchise. Now if you can tell me that heAAdquarters had some influence in getting Mark Cuban to buy the team and build a winner, I'd agree it was a great decision - if not they got lucky and stepped in sh*t with this purchAAse. 😛
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I believe the annual/yearly cost of the arena naming rights for both venues is cheaper than the toal of all managment bonuses recently handed out.
I say scrap the handouts and buy/build more arenas, far more bang for the buck!
Yes, my butt still burns that management received nearly $100 million in bonus compensation while the company has lost money and is still losing money.
Does anyone think the basketball finals being played in dual AA named arenas will turn the wayward ship around and AMR will turn a profit for more than 3 consecutive quarters?
I don't, and thus is a waste of resources.
Someday the management team that earns the big bonuses will clue in that IF DOESN'T HAVE DEFINED PAYBACK, THEN SAVE THE CASH.
I say scrap the handouts and buy/build more arenas, far more bang for the buck!
Yes, my butt still burns that management received nearly $100 million in bonus compensation while the company has lost money and is still losing money.
Does anyone think the basketball finals being played in dual AA named arenas will turn the wayward ship around and AMR will turn a profit for more than 3 consecutive quarters?
I don't, and thus is a waste of resources.
Someday the management team that earns the big bonuses will clue in that IF DOESN'T HAVE DEFINED PAYBACK, THEN SAVE THE CASH.
As predicted, the micro-managers take issue with this decision as well. 
That really inept airline headquartered in Dallas spends about three times as much money on advertising (as a percentage of revenue) each year as AA spends on advertising (including all sponsorships and naming rights deals). If anything, AA should triple its ad spending. Works for Southwest. Might work for AA. B)
That really inept airline headquartered in Dallas spends about three times as much money on advertising (as a percentage of revenue) each year as AA spends on advertising (including all sponsorships and naming rights deals). If anything, AA should triple its ad spending. Works for Southwest. Might work for AA. B)
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As predicted, the micro-managers take issue with this decision as well.
That really inept airline headquartered in Dallas spends about three times as much money on advertising (as a percentage of revenue) each year as AA spends on advertising (including all sponsorships and naming rights deals). If anything, AA should triple its ad spending. Works for Southwest. Might work for AA. B)
Maybe AA should get rid of all Non 737 Aircraft! And stop assigned seating, and give employees more stock ownership.
Works for Southwest, Might work for AA. B)
Perhaps closing TULE, MCIE and AFW and outsourcing more overhaul maintenance is the ticket to success. That would free up some money to pay the line AMTs a living wage. B)
Seriously, though, I dunno whether advertising expense helps at all. But I do know my limitations - I dunno how to fix airplanes, either.
What I find completely amazing is that the airplane fixers at AA are not only the best at their specialty (fixing airplanes) but they're also expert at subjects as diverse as cash management and advertising expenditure effectiveness. The extent of untapped talent is truly staggering.
The board should simply fire all the managers and replace them with committees of mechanics. Instant profitability! 😀
Seriously, though, I dunno whether advertising expense helps at all. But I do know my limitations - I dunno how to fix airplanes, either.
What I find completely amazing is that the airplane fixers at AA are not only the best at their specialty (fixing airplanes) but they're also expert at subjects as diverse as cash management and advertising expenditure effectiveness. The extent of untapped talent is truly staggering.
The board should simply fire all the managers and replace them with committees of mechanics. Instant profitability! 😀
Considering most line mechanics have small businesses on the side in order to survive and they are profitable, you might be on to something. 😛
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After attending the "brainwashing" :blink: meeting today at AFW,it is evident that the overhaul bases, especially AFW, are going to be sold off. As for AA paying line mechanics a living wage? What drugs you been smoking, FWAAA? :wacko:
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I believe with the exception of firing the managers, Arpey has indeed got committee's of mechanics managing the airline. The Overland Group, the Joint Leadership Committee, The Area Leadership Committee, and the Production Leadership Committee, and Natural Work Group implementation.
Basically what has happened is the inept managers are still on board being paid salaries plus bonuses, and the Employee Committees are running the place.
However, this has not led to instant profitability, because the finance department still calls all the shots when it comes to investment or capital expenditures. We don't have the money to improve productivity, but we do have the money to pay bonuses. So, something has stopped Arpey and the Overland Group well short of the intended plan.
Soon the Overhaul Bases will split from the line by some method, the line mechanics will get the industry standard wage, and the overhaul employees will become low paid, low skilled piss ants and a conversion to spanish on all overhaul manuals will be in order.
As predicted, the micro-managers take issue with this decision as well.
That really inept airline headquartered in Dallas spends about three times as much money on advertising (as a percentage of revenue) each year as AA spends on advertising (including all sponsorships and naming rights deals). If anything, AA should triple its ad spending. Works for Southwest. Might work for AA. B)
Yes I will take issue with the decison. Someone truly had their head up their arse when they made the choice to lock us into these ridiculous deals.
Add yourself to the list if you think 10 days of yakking on sportscenter is really going to get the Mark Cuban types out of their NetJet deals and into a airline ranked 10 out of 17 in airline quality. Southwest is profitable because they focus on their customers and employees the other 355 days a year.
Its funny how the same people who say that "price is the only thing that matters" and that how the internet gets people the lowest fares still insist that such money is well spent.
Will AA be able to raise their fares now because these two teams get AA mentioned more in the press? No, of course not.
Is American Airlines a new company that needs to get name recognition? Are they new to the markets where those arenas are? How does having American Airlines mentioned as the place where these two teams play relate to increased sales? Does mentioning Madison Square Garden along with the Rangers score increase the interest in Madison or Square Gardens? They are just words, a name and they do not automatically translate into increased sales. Having AA mentioned in this way does not get people to go out and buy First class tickets to London or Shanghia. The fact is that most if not all those who hear "American Airlines Arena" are already familiar with the Logo. I might agree that a start up company or someone entering the local market may want to use such advertizing tactics, for an established carrier like AA its a waste of money.
And who usually volunteers to go on such committees? People who are just trying to get out of doing their regular work, thats who.
If you only knew!
You seem to resent us putting in a word on what we feel should be done, as if we should "know our place", however once the company butted into our lives by telling us we should work for less they opened the door for us to look at what they do. After all we had been doing our job the right way, keeping them flying, they are the ones who could not make it profitable and since SWA pays much more than AA does obviously the problem is not our wages but the way they run the company.
Will AA be able to raise their fares now because these two teams get AA mentioned more in the press? No, of course not.
Is American Airlines a new company that needs to get name recognition? Are they new to the markets where those arenas are? How does having American Airlines mentioned as the place where these two teams play relate to increased sales? Does mentioning Madison Square Garden along with the Rangers score increase the interest in Madison or Square Gardens? They are just words, a name and they do not automatically translate into increased sales. Having AA mentioned in this way does not get people to go out and buy First class tickets to London or Shanghia. The fact is that most if not all those who hear "American Airlines Arena" are already familiar with the Logo. I might agree that a start up company or someone entering the local market may want to use such advertizing tactics, for an established carrier like AA its a waste of money.
And who usually volunteers to go on such committees? People who are just trying to get out of doing their regular work, thats who.
If you only knew!
You seem to resent us putting in a word on what we feel should be done, as if we should "know our place", however once the company butted into our lives by telling us we should work for less they opened the door for us to look at what they do. After all we had been doing our job the right way, keeping them flying, they are the ones who could not make it profitable and since SWA pays much more than AA does obviously the problem is not our wages but the way they run the company.
Coca-Cola, Budwieser and General Motors are somewhat old, established companies yet they all advertise like they opened their doors just yesterday. So does 35 year old Southwest. Do any of those companies expect that they will be able to raise prices tomorrow because of today's TV ads? I doubt it.
But anyway - this is old ground we've covered numerous times before. I personally don't think my purchasing behavior is swayed by advertising, so my personal belief is that all advertising is WASTED money. My point is that many, many exectutives of big and small companies have bought into the advertising myth - and I seriously doubt that I'm right and all of Corporate America are wrong. So I defer to those who probably know more about it than me. Just like airplane fixing - another subject about which I know almost nothing.
I don't resent anyone for voicing their opinion. I apologize if my post gave that impression. What I was laughing at is the "Management did it, so it must be wrong and stupid" attitude that permeates the posts of some posters on this forum. You know the ones - the terminally bitter who would fault AA for raising fares on Monday and who woulda also criticize AA for running a fare sale on Tuesday. B)
If true, :down:
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You can advertise all you want I am still going to go with the cheapest fare.
It is that simple
Wasted money ?
More than likely
It is that simple
Wasted money ?
More than likely
